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    We are trying to finish off our research on Flight Engineer CA Butler who was killed in action with 35 PFF over Bonn 4th February 1945.

    We have included this information regarding the standard issue kit at 1ACRC in 1944; is anyone able to add to or correct this information or is this the best we can get:

    basic clothing (socks, pants, vests, shoes)
    working uniforms (tunics, trousers, cap)
    parade uniform (jacket, trousers, belt, tie)
    physical exercise kit (shorts, vests, plimsolls)
    equipment (gas mask, kitbag, bedding)

    Any help would be appreciated
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    Pete, Hi

    Your kit list is a bit basic and missing some important items.

    Shoes normally went with No 1 Uniform (i.e. Best Blue/Parade Uniform)
    Boots normally issued with Working Dress.
    Bedding would NOT be issued to individuals - it was drawn (against a signature) from the Bedding Store of whatever Unit (and returned on Posting/Detachment, etc).
    2 towels would be issued (1 in use, and the second used to wrap laundry in before being sent to the Laundry).
    Almost certainly some webbing kit. A Webbing Belt, a Large Pack, a Small Pack, and probably the Braces. If ever you reported Sick you had to take your Small Pack (with Towel and Personal Washing/Shaving Kit) with you! Probably a Rifle Sling (possible Aircrew may not have had the Ammo Pouches)
    And Most Importantly 1 x 1 Pint pot Mug, and your KFS (Knife, Fork, Spoon) stamped with your Number!
    HTH
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    Thanks for the feedback; the list now looks like this:

    basic clothing (socks, pants, vests)
    working uniforms (tunics, trousers, cap, boots)
    parade uniform (jacket, trousers, belt, tie, shoes)
    physical exercise kit (shorts, vests, plimsolls)
    equipment (towels, mug, knife, fork, spoon, gas mask, kitbags, webbing kit)

    Have we reflected your input correctly?. Also, sorry for our ignorance, but does the "webbing kit" = "kitbags" or were they different things?

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    Webbing Kit comprised a Belt, a Large Pack, a Small Pack, a Water-Bottle (in its webbing holder), and a Bayonet Frog. All this stuff was held together on the belt with the Braces. Some of the webbing had brass attachment pieces. Needless to say they had to be kept gleaming bright at Square Bashing!!
    Everybody got one kit-bag. If it was thought likely you might go overseas then you got a second one (the 2 Ring Kitbag - I think?)
    Oh, and I nearly forgot - a Greatcoat.
    Somebody must have a Kit List for 1944!!!
    HTH
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    Peter

    Thanks once again. If anyone does have a complete list which we could include as an appendix that would be brilliant.

    Summary listing now looks like this:

    basic clothing (socks, pants, vests);
    working uniforms (tunics, trousers, cap, boots);
    parade uniform (jacket, trousers, belt, tie, shoes);
    greatcoat;
    physical exercise kit (shorts, vests, plimsolls);
    equipment (towels, mug, knife, fork, spoon, gas mask, kitbag, webbing kit)

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    Not sure if this will be of any help, but my Uncle wrote what kit he was issued with and I have it on this page on my website .. http://rafworldwar2diary.blogspot.com/2011/10/2.html

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    A white canvas band for wearing on the cap was issued to successful candidates prior to joining the Initial Training Wing (ITW). This denoted they were now 'Aircrew under training' (u/t)

    Norman
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    Hello Deb10,

    I have just began to read your Uncles excellent diary. I was truly amazed with the depth of detail and very impressed with the ease of navigation. I now look forward to reading the rest of it tomorrow. Thank you for sharing it.

    Norman
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    Thank you all for your excellent responses and links; we will update our document with the information over the next few days.

    We have found it amazing that very little exists on the internet on this subject; as was said earlier .... surely someone somewhere must have a complete list ..... and as for finding a picture of a recruit, in uniform, with their kit ..... we have given up with that one!

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    Deb

    Just finished reading your blog .... fascinating reading; and a picture of a recruit with their kit!!!!. Where did you find that one?

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