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    Default 4-5 November 1944 Bochum raid losses

    Dear all,

    I'm currently busy re-writing the 4/5 November 1944 narrative and claims listing for the Nachtjagd War Diaries 2nd edition, and would appreciate any additional info on a number of Bochum raid losses (location of crash, time of crash, cause of loss; I do have all the details from Bill Chorley's 1944 volume):

    -51 Sqn Halifax LW177
    -78 Sqn Halifax LK838
    -102 Sqn Halifax MZ772
    -408 Sqn Halifax NP750
    -425 Sqn Halifax MZ831
    -426 Sqn Halifax NP775
    -433 Sqn Halifax NP992
    -466 Sqn Halifax LV936
    -466 Sqn Halifax NR132
    -625 Sqn Lancaster PB154
    -640 Sqn Halifax MZ409
    -640 Sqn Halifax MZ930

    Info on the crash locations of two of the Dortmund-Ems Canal raid losses (4/5 November 1944) would also be very welcome:
    -44 Sqn Lancaster PB192
    -463 Sqn Lancaster NE133

    Cheers & thanks for any details!

    Theo

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    Theo

    There is extensive information about the experiences of some crew members during the loss of the MZ930-K loss in Bill Norman’s excellent history of 640 Squadron RAF Leconfield : A Diary of Wartime Bombing Operations : ISBN 1 900604 08 6.

    Bill Norman records the crash location of MZ930-K as being some 300 yards west of the Holy Ghost ferry at Rhein near Solingen. Flak is recorded as being the cause of the loss of this aircraft. There is no crash location recorded regarding MZ409-C but the book contains photographs of some of the members of the two crews who were shot down during that night.

    Regards

    Douglas

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    Hi Theo,

    I have sent you an email to your private email address with some details.

    Cheers,

    John.

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    Cheers & thanks for that Douglas and John, much appreciated!

    Cheers, Theo

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    Theo,
    MZ409 crashed on a house (Bahnstraße 210) in Wuppertal-Vohwinkel. Excuse belated answer due to illness.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Theo,
    NE133 crashed 1½ km NE of Recke, 24 km NW of Osnabrück.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Default Bochum Raid Losses on 4-5 November 1944

    Hello Theo

    I name is Mark Harris and I live in Auckland New Zealand. Your thread of 8 February 2012 came up when I googled Bochum raid losses and the date. I was interested in your thread because my father's brother (who would have been my uncle) was killed in action that night when his Halifax bomber was hit. He was Pilot Officer Donald Keith Harris and five of his six crew also perished. One crew member - Sgt. K.C. Davis - who was the mid-upper was able to bail out and it was reported later that his next-of-kin had received word that he was safe and a POW in Germany.

    I have obtained a copy of my uncle's file from the New Zealand Defence Force Archives and there is a report on the crash. If it is of interest to you I am happy to email it to you. I was also interested in any information that you may have. I am particularly interested if you would know from your records what happened to Sgt. Davis. My uncle was flying a Halifax bomber Mk 111, LW 716. He was with Squadron 10 on 3 previous flights before the Bochum mission.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Regards,

    Mark

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    Hello Mark,

    Cheers thanks for your interesting posting. I have the following two most likely candidates that can be matched to the loss of LW716:

    Oblt. Hans-Heinz Augenstein: 40 12./NJG1 Lancaster Heerlen-Köln (NN-NO): 3.300 m. 19.49 poss. 10 Sqn Halifax LW716 or 346 Sqn Halifax NA549
    Fw. Rudolf Morenz: 2 5./NJG2 4-mot Köln-Heerlen (NO-NN): 4.100 m. 20.04 poss. 10 Sqn Halifax LW716 or 346 Sqn Halifax NA549


    I would indeed be interested to receive scans of the documents that you mention, please contact me at

    theoboitenATversatel.nl (AT = @)


    Cheers, Theo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk Welting View Post
    Theo,
    MZ409 crashed on a house (Bahnstraße 210) in Wuppertal-Vohwinkel.
    Regards,
    Henk.
    Henk, I would be very interested in any further information available to you regarding the crash of MZ409. My father was Sgt Edward Simmonds, Flight Engineer on MZ409 that night (not his usual crew, he was standing in for the usual Engineer). More information available on www.lostaircraft.com LA9852

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    Hi Keith,
    Since this thread was originally posted, Henk has passed away.
    Alan

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