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    hello all,

    can anyone advise from say, Air Britain or 172 Sqn ORB etc the histories or fates of the following two Wellington's.

    HF450
    HF113

    We have lots of records saying HF450 / E was lost over Galway bay on night 4th 5th october 1944. F/O S D Gaudin RCAF died in the incident.

    Cheers all.

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    Hi,
    From A-B file-
    HF450 304/172 Abandoned in bad weather on return from patrol 12 Miles E of Galway, Eire, 5-10-44.
    HF113 172/3(C)OTU Overshot emergency landing and hit earth mound, Haverfordwest, 25-11-43
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    Interesting, thanks for that.

    The reason for asking is that one of the crew members families has the Oct 1944 aircraft serial recorded as HF113, and it sounds like the airman provided the information. The account they have is of the aircraft being damaged by flak on attacking Brest, but Brest was surrendered on September 19th from what I've just googled. I'll get to the bottom of this. Any ORB details would be interesting.
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    Dennis,
    Have S/Ldr (Pilot) Geoffrey C. ALINGTON - RNZAF as safe on HF450. Perhaps Errol might add some additional info.
    Regards,
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    Thanks henk, I have all the crew and their names etc via the Canadian archives and the Form 765 from there:

    All listed on my website.
    S/Ldr Geoffrey Charles ALINGTON 40974
    F/O Stanley David GAUDIN + J/37642 RCAF
    P/O Edward George TEED 176142
    F/Sgt Raymond ELDERKIN 1332910
    W/O Thomas Francis O'NEILL 421002 RAAF
    F/Sgt William Wood Mitchell OUCHTERLONIE 1368136


    G C Alington only died last year from the looks of Obituaries I found online.
    http://www.thememoryproject.com/stories/veteran-profile.aspx?itemid=1478
    http://www.kelownadailycourier.ca/includes/datafiles/print.php?id=256402&title=ALINGTON,%20Geoffrey
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    Henk,

    Note that Alington was not RNZAF. He was a New Zealander and selected in New Zealand for an RAF SSC, but sailed from here for the UK in 1938 to join the RAF direct. As Dennis correctly shows, his service number is thus not prefixed NZ.

    Errol

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    Thanks chaps. martin Gleeson pointed out a few other items to me last night, I must find out the background to the family information.

    Cheers Dennis
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    Thanks Dennis & Errol for additional info; will amend my files.
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    Hello all,
    Dennis I am sure that Martin has cleared up everything for you. I am sure that Errol, Henk et al may be interested in the ORB Air 27 1106.
    "4-10-44 17.10hrs. S/Ldr G C Alington & crew took off on operations. Capt ordered by control to circle a contact which had disappeared and home an escort group to it. Aircraft stayed out longer than normal. Aircraft made unknown landfall. Subsequently attempted to establish position. Just before the calculated time of exp. 5 crew baled out and subsequently landing near Galway. The body of F/O Gander (sic) 2nd pilot was subsequently found in sea Aircraft crashed 04.10 hrs 5-10-44."

    The Wellington, as Dennis said was HF 450 crashed in Galway Bay.
    Regards to all
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    Thanks Tony, thats great I can show them that also. They sent me a photo of HF113/G in flight with letters I 'roundal' P for Peter on it. I'll get back to them later this evening see what the source of the peice of paper they quoted was.
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