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    Default Ju 88s vs 39sq Beauforts N.Africa1942

    39 squadron Beauforts were attacking Italian auxiliary cruisers Zara and Brioni off the coast of North Africa on 2nd Nov 1942.Near Tobruk.[Morning].
    The ORB reports that several aircraft from 39 were attacked by JU 88s [Approx 8] has anyone got any ideas as to which unit the 88s were from and whether they made any claims as a result of the engagement.
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    Nick

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    Hi Nick
    In his book "The Armed Rovers", Roy Conyers Nesbit gives some detail of the attack on the Zara and the Brioni (p102) He states that they were escorted by 2 Me110s, 2 Ju88s and 2 MC202s, but does not identify the units. 39 Sqn(6 a/c) were themselves escorted by 7 Beaufighters of 272 Sqn. A Ju88 was claimed but the formation lost 1 Beaufighter and 2 Beauforts. The Zara sank after about 13 hrs having been taken in tow.
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    Dick

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    Dick
    Thanks for the reply I have all the basic facts on this mission,I thought I would try to find the enemy units involved to flesh out an account of the loss of my wifes great uncle who was the navigator on DD937,Lost on that day.Not an easy task!
    I have posted the same on 12 o'clock high for the same reason.
    My biggest problem is getting a date for Flg/off G.A.R. Welsfords [116654 RAFVR] move from Portreath out to the Med.
    Many thanks
    Nick

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    Perhaps you could post the question on another of the Luftwaffe boards, Luftwaffe Experten Message Board. You are perhaps likelier to catch an informed viewer on there or 12 O'Clock High..

    This may be around the time NJG 2 was in North Africa with Ju 88Cs. They were (I believe) the only Ju 88 fighter unit, and therefore the likeliest to be doing convoy patrols. There are rather more options with the bomber units.

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    Thanks for the reply Graham.
    This thread is proceeding apace on Luftwaffe experten and 12 O'clock High.
    I now have a possible claim by LTN Herman Munzert 9/JG53 for a Beaufort in roughly the right place time.
    Claims for Beaufighters are also coming from the Italian air force for the same mission.
    How close does anyone think that the report of the RAF and that of the Lufftwaffe would have to be for it to be confirmed that Munzert shot down an aircraft of the attacking force.
    Munzerts claim is for 120km NNE of Tobruk at 8.12.
    The Beaufort ORB has the attack taking place at 50 mile NE of Tobruk at 9.24.
    Near enough for a match?
    What was the time difference between the RAF and Luftwaffe?
    TIA nick
    Last edited by Nick Powell; 24th March 2008 at 10:17.

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