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    I am researching the circumstances surrounding the death of HAW Jolly who is listed on CWGC site as a member of No. 35 Squadron.

    One website suggests that he was part of the crew of PNTU Halifax II W7823 which was lost on a training exercise on 25th January 1944. Has anyone got any source documents which confirm the accuracy of this information?

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    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello,

    Have you checked: BCL8/228?

    Col.

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    Col

    I would if I could, but I can't ... can I assume that it does confirm the accuracy of the information

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    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hi Pete,

    Yes it does!

    Bill Chorley goes on to state, that:

    F/O G W C Candlin DFC, DFM, and W/O H A W Jolly DFM, had been attached (to PFNTU), from 83 Squadron and 35 Squadron respectively.

    Col.

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    Thanks Col

    I checked No. 35 Squadron's ORB / POR to see if it mentioned him being posted out, but couldn't find anything ... I will have another look (although I know that movements were not always listed).

    However, if he was "attached" to the PNTU I am guessing that they would not have listed it as a "posting from squadron to PNTU"; would that assumption be correct?

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    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Pete,

    Considering you don't have a copy of Chorley, here is the entry:

    Pathfinder Force Navigation Training Unit.

    23 Jan 1944
    PFNTU
    Halifax II W7823
    Training.

    T/o 2115 Upwood tasked for a target indicator dropping exercise, but failed to gain height. Seconds later, having smashed through some trees, the Halifax was in a mass of flames in Upwood village on the south side of the airfield. Terribly burned, LAC Preston, whose trade was described as "Air Gunner", was rushed to the Peterborough Memorial Hospital but despite the best efforts of the doctors and nursing staff, he succumbed to his injuries the next day. F/O Candlin and W/O Jolly had been attached from 83 Squadron and 35 Squadron respectively. Apart from Sgt Mitra, whose parents, Haridas and Sudhanshu Bala Mitra, lived in Calcutta, all were buried under private arrangement. It is noted that Sgt Mitra was a graduate of the Royal Botanical Gardens, Edinburgh; he had enlisted on 3 March 1941.

    F/L B F McSoreley DFC RCAF +
    F/S F J P Jervis DFM +
    F/O G W C Candlin DFC DFM +
    P/O L L Oram +
    Sgt W G Stoneman +
    Sgt W Ellenor +
    AC2 A K Kavanagh +
    W/O H A W Jolly DFM +
    Sgt B K Mitra +
    LAC A C Preston inj.

    Col.

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    Col

    Thanks again for your time and effort; it is very much appreciated

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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