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    I have deciphered most of the medals my father was issued with but am struggling with one on his service record, any ideas please?

    Under Particulars of medals it says "35/44 193" and under authority and date "9/43"

    He joined up in Jan 1939 and in September 1943 he was with 113 Squadron in India/Burma

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    You really need one of the medal experts, like Jim Routledge on this one.

    I think it might be the 1939-45 Star.

    I seem to have heard that the medal was the first of the campaign stars issued and it was originally known as the 1939-43 Star.

    Do you have the medals, a medal bar with the ribbons, a Discharge Book RAF Form 865. If so, you might be able to resolve it by a process of elimination.

    Colin Cummings

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    Thanks it is a good idea.
    I do not have the medals or his release book.
    This one intrigues me as it is the only one actually on his service record (form 543) and I have a picture of him taken in June 1945 with a small medal ribbon on his uniform. I have read that it was unusual to wear a medal ribbon then as most "normal medals" were issued later. The picture is black and white so I cannot see the exact colours but guessing from their shades I cannot match them to a medal.
    Only other mystery from the records is under "good conduct badges" is written in pencil "1234" with then a date of "7.4.43" and then a "W", this same entry is repeated, again in pencil, under "Special Qualifications"
    Anyway, thanks for replying you may well be correct.

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    Can you approach the problem from the other direction?

    If your father served throughout the war - and perhaps beyond - and you have a good idea as to where, perhaps from letters, recollections from family members, memorabilia etc, you might be able to assess what medals he might have been entitled to.

    For example, you can take the War Medal as a given. The Defence Medal is a probable, if serving in an area under threat of air attack. The Burma Star could be another and the 1939-45 Star a fourth. Was your father a member of the Burma Star Association for example.

    As to Good Conduct badges, this is a sub specialisation in its own rite!! Can't help with that I'm afraid.

    Colin Cummings

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    Yes thanks for that. With your suggestion of the 1939 - 1943 medal I am satisfied on the medals now.

    The broad outline of where he was is simple UK 1939 to March 1942; 613, 140 and 82 squadrons. India (mostly what is now Pakistan and Bangladesh) and Burma March 1942 to late 1944, initially 82 but for most of the time 113 Squadron; South Africa for convalescence then UK 1945/46 (no squadrons - Orfordness Research Unit) returning after discharge to basically his old RAF job as a civilian until 1958.

    There are no entries on his record for movements between 10/42 and 3/45 so detail of where he was is difficult to exactly establish but I am working on it. 113 moved around a lot. There is the excellent 113 Squadron website but some info on here conflicts with the Burma Star website (particularly the very moving account on there of LAC Joe Hunter, 113 squadron) and with the ORBs I have from National Archives; I guess this is because the main interest is now and was then, understandably, aircraft and pilots not other ranks.
    Thank you for your interest.

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