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    Default RAF crash in Maine in 1938

    The very useful website mewreckchasers.com has just updated its list of known military aircraft crashes in Maine, and I'm trying to help the author fill in some blanks. He has witness reports of an RAF crash at Mud Pond, near Greenville, Maine, in 1938. This is near the middle of Maine, and would be on a flight path from Montreal to the Maritime provinces. No exact date, no aircraft info. I haven't been able to match this to any RCAF losses, can anybody identify a candidate RAF aircraft?

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    Bill,

    Nothing to do with Fairchild 71 CF-AAX with crash date 24 Dec 1930 that's also described on the mewreckchasers website? In the story there's a reference to the 1938 accident (and yourself as well).

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    Leendert

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    Meriden Record - Aug 26, 1938 on Google news archive

    A crash on August 25, 1938, an aircraft carrying Pilot Frederick J Elser and passengers Dr. Fred Pritham and Alaric Bailey.

    Aircraft belonged to a Gov. John H Trumbull of Conn.

    Aircraft type not mentioned, Elser ended up in Greenville hospital.
    No link to them being in any way British.

    found the list!!
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    Thanks all, I've heard from the author of the web site who confirms this was actually a civil aircraft crash.

    Now that I have your attention, can anybody explain why Walrus L2308 was off the coast of Maine in May 1939?

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    L2308 was with 712 Squadron which supplied aircraft for HMS Glasgow, HMS Newcastle, HMS Sheffield and HMS Southampton, all Cruisers, I believe.
    Now we need a naval expert to tell us which of those ships was on a U.S. cruise at that time.

    And, returning to the fuzzy folk memory of a 1938 RAF crash at Mud Pond ME, perhaps it relates the March 1942 loss of RCAF NA26 Harvard 3345 near another Mud Pond near Prentiss ME.
    That one came to mind because I recently visited the pilot's grave at Picton ON.

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    Thanks Ian. The 1938 crash has been confirmed as a Canadian registered civil aircraft. It was a Fairchild 71; RCAF 71s passed through Maine regularly around that time, probably resulting in the confusion.

    My notes show Harvard 3345 coming down near Tarr Ridge Road in Prentiss, the location is also reported as "10 miles south east of Kingman, Maine", which places it very close to Prentiss. I assume you visited the grave of F/O Armour, do you know what unit he was with at the time of the crash?

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    Was the one I mentioned known? What was the aircraft?
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    Bill,

    In May 1939 the British King and Queen brought a state visit to Canada and the cruisers acted as an escort.

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    Leendert

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    Bill, Allison lists his unit as #3 Communications & Ferry Unit, might have to look at the accident report to clarify that.
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