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    Hi
    Few more crashes, I am looking details of.
    Pilot Janicki died in crash of Spitfire FR.18(?) in Malaya on 20.01.1950. I have had details, but lost or otherwise cannot find them.
    Pilot Zagroba killed on 07.09.1951 while at RAF Shaibah. This could be not aircraft related.
    Pilot Bieniek killed at Mona on Anglesey in Vampire crash on 16.07.1954. I cannot find it, I wonder if date is correct.
    Finally, this could be a hard nut. I have an information, that a Polish navigator, who served on 230 OCU was killed in Canberra crash. No other details.
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    Franek

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    From Colin Cummings 'Last Take Off':

    20 Jan 50, TP319, Spitfire FR18, 60 Sqn, Near Malacca, Malaya
    The aircraft dived into the ground but the reasons remain obscure.
    Pilot III Robert Howard Hall [not Janicki]

    7 Sep 51, VX989, Vampire FB5, 249 Sqn, 1 Mile west of Shaibah
    The aircraft was engaged on unauthorised low level aerobatics over the dispersal area of the airfield. The pilot, a recent transferee fromn 213 Squadron, attempted a slow roll but as the aircraft inverted, its nose dropped and it crashed into the ground and caught fire.
    Sergeant Stefan Zagroba, 36.

    16 Jul 54, WA307, Vampire FB5, 7FTS, Mona relief landing ground
    The aircraft was being operated on a staff continuation and aerobatics sortie when the pilot attempted a slow roll at an entry height of 200 to 300 feet. During the latter part of the roll the nose dropped, the aircraft slipped and yawed and the dived into the ground.
    Flying Officer Henryk Bineiek, 32.

    Errol

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    Hello,

    Could this be your Polish navigator?

    http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=20527

    Col

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    Thanks guys!
    Col, well, not sure, it could be a confusion, but it seems there were more Polish deaths at RAF service, and I must sort my new data.
    Errol, I have got Hall killed on 22 Jan, and I think the conclusion was Cummings was wrong in this case. If typo in Bieniek's name is in Cummings, then anyone could ammend it to the proper spelling.
    I'll be back, as someone once said!

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    22-1-1950
    No.60 Sqn.
    Spitfire XVIII TP219

    Dived into ground in bad weather, Tampin, Malaya.

    579427 Pilot III Robert Howard HALL RAF +

    Buried Cheras Road Cemetery, Kuala Lumpur, Malaya. Grave No.972.

    Re: BINEIEK/BIENIEK:

    http://www.veterans-uk.info/afm2/roll-of-honour.php?SerialNo=R3525

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 22nd May 2012 at 06:04. Reason: Corrected Tamplin to Tampin

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    Colin Cummings does not have any entry under 22 Jan 50 but it would appear that he may have inadvertently combined Spitifire losses of 20 and 22 Jan 50 into the one entry of 20 Jan 50.

    Air-Britain serials volume has:

    Spitfire TP219, 60 Sqn, Dived into ground in bad weather, Tampin, Malaya, 22.1.50

    Spitfire TP319, 60 Sqn, Dived into ground 1m NW of Malacca, 20.1.50

    Curious that 60 Sqn should lose two of its aircraft in such similar circumstances and with similar serial numbers just two days apart.

    Errol

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    Regarding the ASN site's record of the loss of Canberra WD984 on 27 Mar 52, in which it states Sigmund as pilot, Colin Cummings 'Last Take Off' lists the crew as:

    Sergeant Peter Ford, 21, pilot
    Flying Officer Bohumil Vladimir Sigmund, navigator
    Flying Officer Frank Ernest Bath, navigator observer

    Errol

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    Only Spitfire incidents I could find in time line

    The Straits Times, 24 January 1950

    Body of Spitfire pilot who crashed at Kampong Solok, Malacca found Aircraft crashed on Sunday 22nd Jan

    No Name


    Also

    The Singapore Free Press, 12 January 1950

    Siamese Air Force Pilot killed at Tengah in Spitfire on Tuesday 10th (again no name)

    Can anyone ID this one?
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 22nd May 2012 at 09:07.

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    Death Register has

    Deaths Sep 1954

    Bieniek Henryk 32 Anglesey W

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    You will find the Armed Forces Memorial entry for Josef JANICKI, here:

    http://www.veterans-uk.info/afm2/roll-of-honour.php?SerialNo=R1038

    Col.

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