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    Default Wellington loss near Landen/Belgium 30-31 May 1942

    Dear all,

    During the 30-31 May 1942 Cologne raid, a German night fighter claimed a Wellington shot down south of Landen in Belgium, which is a location near St. Trond, but so far I have not been able to establish the identity of this Wellington. Who can help?

    Lt. Helmut Niklas: 2 6./NJG1 Wellington 4 km. S. Landen 03.11

    Cheers & thanks, Theo

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    Theo

    A possible?:

    This is the second bomberaircraft of the RAF who crashed on the territory of the city Landen (Waasmont, Belgium) on 30/31 May 1942 (first 1000 bomber raid). The crew members were:

    W/O Hatton J E 566097 (POW)
    P/O Harper J 102095 (POW)
    F/S Hill R 937296 (POW)
    Sgt Collins R J Aus 405035 (Evaded)
    Sgt Hindle F R 646157 (POW)

    This Wellington W-5586 of 15 OTU was shot down by Niklas Helmut of 6/NJG 1 of the air base Saint-Trond (Brustem).

    Source: http://100548.activeboard.com/t9975558/wellington-w-5586-shot-down-above-belgium-by-a-nightfighter-/

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    Hi Pete,

    This certainly appears to be the one I'm looking for! Cheers & thanks for that.

    Cheers, Theo

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    I've for W5586 Oblt Reinhold Knacke crashed near Esloo about 02.15h. What could be correct ?
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    When I read "This is the second bomber aircraft of the RAF who crashed on the territory of the city Landen (Waasmont, Belgium) on 30/31 May 1942", I assumed that there was another on the same night, hence my "possible" comment.

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    Hi Henk,

    Knacke claimed three a/c shot down on 30-31 May 42, I have not been able to establish the identity of his first claim:

    Oblt. Reinhold Knacke: 18 1./NJG1 Wellington 10 km. E. Weert: 5.400 m. 01.00 identity?
    Oblt. Reinhold Knacke: 19 1./NJG1 Halifax 3 km. ESE Weert: 4.500 m. 02.04 1652 CU Halifax L9605
    Oblt. Reinhold Knacke: 20 1./NJG1 Whitl/Well 3 km. W. Middelbeers/Eindhoven: 3.500 m 02.30 26 OTU Wellington W5704

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hello

    Collins' evasion report is in WO208/3309. He wrote, I quote "I came down in BELGIUM somewhere north of COLOGNE". Not really precise. The only location he gives is when he reached Liège, on the 1st of June, but this does't help much...

    I'll leave it to you to try to match the geography. Best option would be to check the PoW questionnaires of the PoWs, in the WO344 series at Kew.

    Joss

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    Hello Joss,

    Yes, will check the PoW questionnaire in question!

    Cheers, Theo

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    Gents ,

    Wellington W-5586 came down in the village off Waasmont , next to a country road in the direction of the village off Lincent.Since the 70's Waasmont is now a part of the town of Landen.

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    Gents ,

    I think my friend Alexandre was talking about Lancaster KB-835 who came down 1 mile from Landen on march 15 1945 as the second RAF aircraft who came down near Landen.

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