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    Default Hudson N7285 220 Sqn FTR 24 Apr 40

    Hello All (although I think this one may be in Ross' bailiwick).
    Hudson N7285 (and also Hudson N7286!!) is(are) reported by rafweb to have crashed whilst trying to land near a destroyer - so looks like a CC job?
    Where were 220 sqn operating from at this time? What were they doing with 2 x Hudsons in the same area? Where was that area - i.e. where did they go into the Oggin?
    My man is Sgt E W A Peachey - what was his Trade?
    TIA
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    Hi Peter

    According to Ross' book they were escorting destroyers and were shot down near MBRU 3452.

    Peachey was the Captain/pilot

    Malcolm

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    Cannot trust what you read on the internet...even this post....

    N7285
    Operating from Leuchars

    Escorted destroyers until 07:46 hrs when in position MBRU 3452 at 2,800 feet, sighted two Me109s half a mile to starboard diving at 3,000 feet from sun. On the first machine gun squirt the port engine of the Hudson burst into flames. LAC Dobson was observed to continue firing and aircraft then attempted to land alongside a destroyer but lost control at 500 feet and turned over. One member of crew attempted to land by parachute but canopy caught fire. The Hudson was claimed as shot down at 08:05 hrs by Lt Demes/Ofw Arnoldy of 4/JG77. Sgt Peachey and his crew are all commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    N7286
    Operating from Leuchars

    Escorted destroyers until 07:46 hrs when in position MBRU 3452 at 2,800 feet, sighted two Me109s half a mile to starboard diving at 3,000 feet from sun. P/O Petrie was attacked by the second Me109 and was seen to dive to sea level with black smoke issuing from engine, followed by the enemy aircraft. The Hudson was claimed as shot down at 08:05 hrs by Lt Demes/Ofw Arnoldy of 4/JG77. P/O Petrie from Wellington, a New Zealander, P/O Lawry, a New Zealander from Christchurch, AC1 Merrick, real name Maddocks, and LAC Wilson are all commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

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    Default Hudson N7285 220 Sqn FTR 24 Apr 40

    Hello Peter,
    Ross's Coastal Command Losses of the Second World War vol 1 has both detailed on pages 29/30.
    N7285 was "NR-L"
    Base was Leuchars
    Crew all killed.
    Sgt. EWA Peachey
    P/O. RH Sanders
    AC1. RJ Simpson
    LAC. T Dobson
    Escort to destroyers when in position MBRU 3452 were sighted two Me109's to starboard diving out of the sun.
    The first burst of gunfire hit the port engine and the Hudson burst into flames. LAC. Dobson was observed to continue firing. The Hudson was attempted to land alongside a destroyer but control was lost at 500ft and the a/c turned over. One crewmember tried his chute but the canopy caught fire.
    The Hudson was claimed as shot down at 08:05 hrs by Ltn. Demes and Ofw. Arnoldy of 4/JG77.
    N7286 was "NR-Z"
    Crew all killed.
    P/O. MC Petrie (New Zealander)
    P/O. RO Lawry ( New Zealander)
    AC1. KC Merrick (real name Maddocks)
    LAC. P Wilson
    The Hudson was claimed as that above.
    A 224 Sqdn Hudson was also lost.
    N7283 "QX-S"
    Same Base
    Crew all killed.
    Shot down off Haakonshellen, Norway at 07:30hrs
    Claimed by two pilots from 5/JG77.

    Ross beat my post but there is also from Tony wood the following:
    "2 4 . A p r i l 1 9 4 0
    Einsatz in Norwegen:
    24.04.40 Ltn. Edgar Struckmann: 4 - 5./JG 77 Hudson - 150 km. S.W. Stavanger 07.40 Refer: Prien/Bock re. Perry
    24.04.40 Fw. Robert Menge: 4 - 5./JG 77 Hudson - 150 km. S.W. Stavanger 07.40 Refer: Prien/Bock re. Perry
    24.04.40 Fw. Werner Petermann: 1 - 5./JG 77 Hampden - S.W. Stavanger 08.30 Refer: Prien/Bock re. Perry
    Supplemental Claims:
    24.04.40 Fw. Ertel: 1 - 6./JG 77 Hudson - 07.30 Refer: JG 77 Lists f.2379
    24.04.40 Oblt. Pointer: 2 - 5./JG 77 Hudson - 07.30 Refer: JG 77 Lists f.2379
    24.04.40 Ofw. Jaenisch: 1 - 4./JG 77 Blenheim - 09.25 Refer: JG 77 Lists f.2379"

    Ertel & Pointer claimed "QX-S".
    So Luftwaffe pilots names are not those that Ross has given and the time is also not the same ??

    Christopher Shores book "Fledgling Eagles" has:
    "At Leuchars 220 Sqdn had formed a special "Battle Flight" of three Hudsons, and these took off at 0430 to give support to three French destroyers in the Skagerrak; these were L'Indompable, Le Malin and Le Triomphant under command of Cne Bartles. The Hudsons were followed at 0500 by N7283 of 224 Sqdn (F/O. HLM Bullock) on anti sub patrol and at 0635 by three more Hudsons from 233 Sqdn which were also on escort duty.
    220 Sqdns "Battle Flight" was attacked at 0805 by two BF109E's of 4/JG77 flown by Lt Demes and Ofw Arnoldy, and a/c N7289 "L" (Sgt WA Peachey) was hit at once. With the port engine on fire Peachey tried to land alongside one of the destroyers while the dorsal turret gunner continued to engage the attackers, but the Hudson fell out of control and crashed into the water. One member of the crew tried to bale out but his parachute caught fire. At this moment N7286 "Z" (P/O MC Petrie) was attacked and was last seen diving towards the sea trailing black smoke. At this, a/c "N" took evasive action at low level and escaped. Demes and Arnoldy were each credited with one Hudson shot down".
    Shores goes on to say "Around the same time the 224 Sqdn Hudson flown by Bullock was also lost, shot down west of Bergen by Hpt. Gúnther Reinecke, Gruppenkommandeur of I/ZG76". But Ertel & Pointer ??

    Hope this is of use
    Alex
    Last edited by Alex Smart; 25th June 2012 at 15:58.

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    Ross/Malcolm/Alex,
    VMT yr responses. Got the scene!
    But sorry to be a pain - where was MBRU 3452? I've just about got the hang of converting Cassini grid refs (via the OS site) but as far as I can see MBRU 3452 is the password into some Chinese medecine site!!! Not quite what I was looking for!
    Where goeth I to decode MBRU 3452?
    TIA
    Peter Davies
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    We might not know - but we might know who does!

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