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    Is anyone able to translate the following MRES Map Reference so that I can find it on a modern day map:

    K51/F5738

    Any help would be much appreciated

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    Pete
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    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello,

    Using echodelta translator, there's no vF.... coordinates. So I tried wF5738 and it gives a location south-east of Bourne.

    http://www.echodelta.net/mbs/eng-translation.php

    Does it make sense for you ?

    If the copy and paste of the above URL doesn't work, it gives :
    British Cassini Grid
    wF5738
    has roughly (*) the following geographical coordinates :
    Latitude : 52 45' 14'' N
    Longitude : 0 21' 11'' W
    which equivalent in decimal degrees are :
    Latitude : 52.754
    Longitude : -0.35295

    which you may also use to confirm / infirm if that corresponds to the area you're seeking.

    Regards

    Joss

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    Joss

    Thanks so much for a quick response. Sorry, I should have put the reference in context in my first post but my enthusiasm at receiving the information got the better of me.

    The reference relates to Lancaster ME334, which crashed over Bonn (Beuel) on 4th February 1945 so hopefully it relates to the Bonn area (Elsa Brandstroem Strasse).

    [Update: I have just used the Nord du Guerre map on the site that you mentioned and got the map reference .... brilliant stuff .... thanks Joss]

    Regards

    Pete
    Last edited by PeteT; 5th July 2012 at 16:35. Reason: Update added
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    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello

    Happy to have been of assistance. Indeed I thought you were looking for a UK location, hence the British Cassini Grid. I see that you managed very well and found what you were looking for.

    I have used myself some MRES informations for crashs sites in northern France and it's actually first class information.

    Joss

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    Joss

    In your experience, how accurate is the reference provided?

    The reason I am asking is the MRES report quotes Elsa Brandstroem Strasse (which I have found on google map), but when I paste the co-ordinates obtained from keying wF5738 into the Nord du Guerre, the placemark on google is some distance away. I note that error can be up to 1000m; is this your experience?

    Also, do you know the significance of the first part of the reference (K51) which you can't key into the Nord du Guerre conversion?

    Regards

    Pete
    Last edited by PeteT; 5th July 2012 at 19:01.
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    K51 is the map number for the 1:250,000 scale map of Koln.

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    Thanks Andy

    Much appreciated
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Andy

    Thanks for your PM; I can't respond as it says you are not set up to receive ... but would love to take up your offer.

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    No trouble Peter, email sent.

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