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    Brookwood Cemetery has 17 Turkish Air Force casulaties from the war buried in an allocated plot. It seems that, though Turkey was neutral, it sent aircrews for familiarisation training of the latest aircraft.

    I believe one was killed in an air-raid, and another in a train accident. However, I cannot find any details of other losses (all I assume at OTUs).

    Does anyone have any details, and whether RAF etc members were lost in these accidents.

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    Hello Amrit,

    Can you publish their names and dates of death?

    Regards,

    Bart

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    Sorry Bart, but at this moment I don't have that info. Am working it though

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    Winston Churchill's report on the Casablanca Conference in the Commons on 12 February 1943 includes this description of his arrival in Turkey while he was enroute to the U.K.

    "I descended upon a Turkish airfield at Adana, already well equipped with British Hurricane fighters manned by Turkish airmen"...

    Perhaps they received some of their training in the U.K.?

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    Lt (Pilot) A. AKSU (buried Brookwood) killed 21-1-1943 on Tiger Moth R5101 of 28 EFTS.

    Henk.

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    Thank you Henk. Do you know who was flying BB816, with which it collided with and whether they were killed?

    I found this in The Times Saturday, Jul 21, 1945, which I found interesting:

    http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/amrit68/TAF.jpg

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    Hi All
    The Turkish Airmen in Brookwood Cemetery are
    Akarcay,Hakki, 2nd Lt,3/9/43-4/9/43
    Aksu, A,2nd Lt, 21/1/43
    Ang,Fethi, 2nd Lt, 17 FTS, 24/9/44
    Ay,Abdullah,2nd Lt,4/4/45
    Donmez,Emin,2nd Lt,25/10/44
    Gorez,Mustafa,2nd Lt,4.8.44
    Gulcekan,Kemal,2nd Lt,10/1/44
    Nalbant,R,2nd Lt, 16-17/8/42
    Oray,Ibrahim,2nd Lt,25/3/43
    Parlak, Saim, 2nd Lt, 17/7/43
    Sasmaz, Esat, 2nd Lt,23/8/43
    Sengun,N, 2nd Lt, 18-19/9/42
    Sumerca,Omer,2nd Lt, 21/9/43
    Toros,Hudai, 2nd Lt, 10/11/44
    This comes from a list I have from CWGC of Non-Commonwealth Airmen for whom they are responsible and there is a separate Brookwood Military Cemetery on the list. The dual dates are not explained (?date of accident and date of death from injuries) and only one has a unit(Ang 17 FTS)
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    That's excellent Dick, thank you.

    With you names, I've just found this site which lists these men (amongst others) with photos. It's in Turkish so I will need to do some digging for a decent translator:

    http://www.tayyareci.com/hvsehitleri/cilt1-1914-47/1941-1942/00041-42.htm
    http://www.tayyareci.com/hvsehitleri/cilt1-1914-47/1943-1944/00043-44.htm
    http://www.tayyareci.com/hvsehitleri/cilt1-1914-47/1945-1947/00045-47.htm

    As I had no idea that the Turkish Air Force had such close links with the RAF this has become a fascinating search.

    Thanks everyone

    A

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    Hi Dick about dual dates - I suppose it can mean that it was during night flight, e. g. starting 3/9/43 at 22.00 and the plane crashed/was shotdown etc. at 02.00 of 4/9/43.

    Pavel

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    This website seems to carry the story: http://www.hvkk.tsk.mil.tr/PageSub/Kurumumuz/Tarihce/TarihtenYansimalar.aspx?pid=0311198213

    Unfortunately the English version of the website doesn't give a (full) translation.....

    However, several names of Dick's list can be found in the text.

    Regards,

    Leendert

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