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    Danny

    I think that the error has come due to the fact that 78 Sqn carried out two operations on the same day, one an early morning low level attack (crews bombing from heights of between 6,000 and 7,500 Ft) and the second a night attack against a V1 flying bomb site (crews bombing at heights of between 11,000 and 12,500 Ft). The purpose of the first raid was to relieve pressure on advancing ground forces and was against German Army positions, the family story may well have been corrupted over time and it is possible I suppose that the crew having bombed at 6000 feet decided to let rip with the guns as they went past to aid the attacking ground forces.
    Bill Chorley doesn't list a cause for the loss during the Acquet raid in BCL.

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    Daz

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    Hi Daz

    Family lore certainly has its merit... as long as it can be proven. Looks like you have done your investigation well. Last piece would be to view the service file and see what is in it. You may be lucky enough to view the C.O.'s letter to the family and a brief narration of the mission from other crews.

    Danny
    Remembering Gunner Robert Béland (1919-2012), 5th L.A.A., R.C.A., Canadian Army, WWII

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    Danny

    His service file is with the RAF as he was due to transfer and get his commission with the RCAF when his tour with 78 Sqn ended. From experience any request to the RAF as non next of kin reveals very little, all they provide is a transcript of movements and promotions. I have told his son how he can apply and perhaps he will get the full record, but until then I guess Im stuck.

    Daz

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    Really too bad that the UK privacy laws are that strict... even if KIA files are involved.

    Danny
    Remembering Gunner Robert Béland (1919-2012), 5th L.A.A., R.C.A., Canadian Army, WWII

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    [QUOTE=78SqnHistory;79549]Steve

    I'm fine mate thanks. The bit that confuses me is that the family were told this story by an unknown source yet I can find no evidence to support it, there is no mention in the Sqn ORB or the Stn ORB, were the 218 Sqn attacks officially recorded? It is also family history that the crew had a discussion on making the attack or not and they all decided to do it, my question would be if they all died how does anyone know that they had some sort of mid air Chinese parliament. My second reason for questioning it is the piece about receiving a distress call from ground troops. How would the ground troops know what frequency the bomber stream were on? Perhaps the crews had been given frequencies of ground troops in case they were coming down unexpectedly in Allied occupied territory? If its true its amazing and very sad that the crew all perished on their way home trying to attack German positions with just the guns of both turrets.

    Hope this finds you well.

    Daz[/QUOTE]

    Hi Daz,

    Sorry for the delay in replying.

    Yes their exploits were recorded in both the Form 540/541 and the station records book. Squadron Leader Hiles DSO DFC was notorious on the squadron for taking every opportunity to attack ground targets. No.3 Group did experiment in 1942/3 with flying low level to targets in an attempt to confuse the defences, I am not sure if this would have applied to the Halifax squadrons of No.4 Group. Squadron Leader Geoff Rothwell DFC hit an electrical pylon, there are a number of instances on the squadron where crews are recorded for going down low and straffing targets of opportunity.

    All the best mate

    Smudge
    Last edited by Steve Smith; 2nd September 2012 at 07:45.
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