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    Default 2nd Lt P. Warden, SAAF P/6814, 23/05/1940, South Africa

    What's the cause of death of:

    Second Lieutenant Pieter Warden, SAAF P/6814, age 21, 23/05/1940, Krugersdorp Cemetery, South Africa

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    Bart

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    Hart SAAF No.331 (ex-K4484) crashed Kimberly. Unit - CFS

    From: 85 Years of the SAAF

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    Thanks Amrit,

    Do you have the name of the author, the publisher and year in which it was published for me?

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    Hi Bart

    85 Years of South African Air Force (African aviation series; no. 13)
    by Winston Brent
    2005
    Freeworld Publications
    ISBN: 0958438897

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    Thanks, Amrit,

    Does this book contain details on all SAAF personnel, or only on those who actually flew?

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    Bart

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    Hi Bart

    The book is about 450 pages long. The first 400 or so pages list all the aircraft that the SAAF use, with a brief introduction of the aircraft and the units that used them, and then a listing of each serial (with details of loss, if known).

    Then there are the Rolls of Honour -
    SAAF killed in action or active service (most with causes of death),
    SAAF RoH for those who died of causes not directly related to aircraft (only name and date)
    RAF RoH related to an aircraft incident in SA (or SAAF unit)
    RAF RoH in which reason of death is not known

    Hope that helps

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    Thanks Amrit,

    In the coming days I'll ask you details for five other SAAF men who died in June 1940 (dates 22/06/1940, 23/06/1940 (two), 26/06/1940 and 29/06/1940.

    Do you know if there were crashes in the period May/June 1940 in South Africa with no fatalities?

    Regards,

    Bart

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    The book is divided into individual aircraft types, and then the listings in order of serial (each section then lists losses, and the fate of the crew, if known). However, it would probably be easier to search where a aircrat type and/or serial is known rather than a specific date.

    As for your five men:

    Name: McKECHNIE, HAROLD
    Initials: H V
    Nationality: South African
    Rank: Air Mechanic
    Regiment/Service: South African Air Force
    Age: 47
    Date of Death: 22/06/1940
    Service No: 94376
    Additional information: Son of John B. McKechnie and Ida G. McKechnie; husband of Eileen Z. McKechnie, of Florida.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Cemetery: JOHANNESBURG (WEST PARK) CREMATION MEMORIAL

    Listed as non-aircraft related death. No details

    Name: FULTON
    Initials: J
    Nationality: South African
    Rank: Air Mechanic
    Regiment/Service: South African Air Force
    Age: 25
    Date of Death: 23/06/1940
    Service No: 96282
    Additional information: Son of Mrs. M. Fulton, of Johannesburg.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 219. Row C. Grave 2.
    Cemetery: GERMISTON (PRIMROSE) CEMETERY

    Listed as non-aircraft related death. No details

    Name: ROBINSON
    Initials: D
    Nationality: South African
    Rank: Second Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service: South African Air Force
    Age: 25
    Date of Death: 26/06/1940
    Service No: 202923
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 189. Row I. Grave 23.
    Cemetery: GERMISTON (PRIMROSE) CEMETERY

    Tiger Moth ZS-AIR of 2 AS

    Name: MARTIN
    Initials: J C
    Nationality: South African
    Rank: Air Mechanic
    Regiment/Service: South African Air Force
    Age: 55
    Date of Death: 29/06/1940
    Service No: 100475
    Additional information: Son of Frank and Charlotte Martin; husband of Q D Martin, of Cape Town.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave UL. 76.
    Cemetery: CAPE TOWN (PLUMSTEAD) CEMETERY

    Listed as non-aircraft related death. No details

    Bart, I can't find the the other casualty for the 23/06/1940

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    Thanks Amrit,

    I've these two men on 23/06/1940 as deaths in Africa - but more or less by mistake, I see now, as AC2 G.H. Dale was not beloninging to the SAAF and didn't die in South Africa, but in Sudan - in Africa, indeed, but thousands of kilometers to the north:

    Aircraftman 2nd Class George H. Dale, RAF 645202, age 21, 23/06/1940, Khartoum War Cemetery, Sudan

    Air Mechanic J. Fulton, SAAF 96282, age 25, 23/06/1940, Germiston (Primrose) Cemetery, South Africa

    Regards,

    Bart

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