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    Hi Guys,

    I wonder if by any chance anyone has the Form 78 for Magister R1853, I understand it served with 15 EFTS, ECFS & 11 AGS. I am looking for the dates it was taken on charge with each school and details of any accidents it may have had.

    Thanks for any help

    Stevie

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    Hi Stevie,

    I have the following crash record:

    26.10.40
    Miles M.14 Magister I R1853 15 E.F.T.S. Kingstown
    P/O C N Bishop pilot ok
    Aircraft crash-landed soon after take off because of severe icing hitting two fences and landing just off the airfield at Kingstown.

    There was a photo of the aircraft at:

    http://www.jaapteeuwen.speedlinq.nl/pictures/gallery/miles

    but sadly this site no longer seems to be there.

    Jim
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    To add to Jim's report above, I think this might have been the morning where there were wholesale accidents at Kingstown.

    In addition N3853 and R1850 are also supposed to have crashed, all from severe ice accretion.

    Unfortunately one of the aircraft, not sure which, collided with a tent and three airmen received fatal injuries. I have these men as being Aircraftman 2nd Class G R HECKLER, L HARROD and N F KNIGHT

    Open to correction on this, as I recall having a devil's own job of finding this information.

    Colin Cummings

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    Jim & Collin,

    Thanks for the information, very helpful. There a reference to the accidents at Kingstown in the Flight Archive below:

    http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954%20-%200743.html

    Stevie

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    Hello,

    The pilot of Magister R1853, was none other than the redoubtable, 75992 P/O Cyril Albert Nepean BISHOP RAFVR, better known as C. A. NEPEAN BISHOP, of Tiger Club fame etc.

    A photo of (the intact), Magister R1853 can be found here;

    Aeroplane Monthly. March 1980.(Vol.8. No.3.).
    RAF Piston Trainers No.7. Miles M.14 Magister.
    By Graham H. R. Johnson.
    pp.154-61.

    The caption to the photo (on p.159) reads:

    M.14a R1853 with "B" Flight, 15 EFTS, at Carlisle in the summer of 1940.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 5th September 2012 at 22:45.

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    Thanks Col,

    I will try and get hold of a copy.

    Stevie

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