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    Does anyone have any records on where particular RAF Regiment anti-aircraft flights were based?. I am particularly interested in where 4015 anti-aircraft flight was based in March 1942.

    In addition, I am trying to establish when 2824 defence squadron moved from Fairoaks to Biggin Hill. I know it was 1942 but I am trying to establish in which month the move occurred.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

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    Pete, Hi,
    You might have to wait until the rafcommands Secret Agent in the 'Rock's' museum reports for duty!!
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    You can get the locations minus exact dates of move from an Advanced search of flight number limited to AIR 29 series on the Discovery Catalogue of the TNA


    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...s?uri=C7162056


    This gives a location just after regiment formation


    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...Service-Record


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    Thanks for your responses to date.

    I am working with the family who posted thread http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...Service-Record to see if we can find information to validate the content.

    It is suggested in the thread that he was with 2824 squadron at Biggin Hill but we believe he may have been posted to Fairoaks and stayed there with 2824 squadron, 4015 flight, and 18 EFTS; however, despite best efforts, finding confirmation of when 2824 moved to Biggin Hill and whether 4015 was at Fairoaks is proving difficult.

    4015's TNA record seems to start in November 1942 (not March 1942) and there is no specific date for 2824's move to Biggin Hill (although I have asked someone to have a look at the TNA record next time they visit).

    Regards (and thanks again for feedback)

    Pete
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    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    I would be very wary of giving an absolute location for any qualified man during the initial formation of the Regiment without checking the ORBs and Form 543.


    I would see it quite likely that he was on the strength of a particular parent unit with a listed location but attached and located to a different unit for a period of instruction duties.


    Since No.18 EFTS and subsequent flying units would have no use for a ground gunner LAA on flying/squadron strength I suggest that attachment for messing/pay/accommodation is more likely here of a crew detached from main unit.


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    Thanks Ross

    Once we had hopefully solved the issue regarding where he was initially based (Biggin Hill or Fairoaks) we were going to try to understand the logic of his being attached to 18 EFTS and then posted to 20 (P) AFU.

    We believe that he transferred from the Army as an instructor when the RAF Regiment was first formed but we can't understand the logic of him being posted to a RAF training unit rather than being on the establishment of one of the RAF defence squadrons / anti-aircraft flights for the bulk of his service life.

    I am guessing that as he was an NCO there is unlikely to be any reference to him in any of the ORB's, hence the scratching around for any scraps of information at the moment.

    Regards (and thanks again for your feedback)

    Pete
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    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    As a Sgt instructor he would be provided with better accommodation that tented beside the gun post if possible.


    Hence attachment/post to unit so that he would be a visiting member and accommodated in the station Sgts Mess.


    Also as an instructor he would probably visit all the local gun posts on different units as part of his duties and would not be a permanent part of a watch/gun crew on the parent site .


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    Ross

    Thanks again.

    We originally thought it could be due to the fact that the RAF Regiment was instructed to reduce establishment numbers at the time, but we still couldn't understand the logic of him being posted to a training unit, but your explanation makes more sense.

    If we could solve the Fairoaks / Biggin Hill conundrum, then we have hopefully cracked it.

    Regards

    Pete
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    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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