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    Default 124747 Plt Off Cornelius GEESINK

    I am seeking a few details on the above Dutch pilot in the hope someone may be able to fill in the blanks, please.

    b Gorinchem, NL, 18 Dec 18
    started trng as airline pilot, 10 Oct 1938
    escaped from NL, 17 May 40
    arr in England, 1 Jul 40

    > whereabouts Jul 40-Feb 41 unknown?

    joined RAFVR, 12 Feb 41
    Rcvng Wg, 18 Mar 41
    ITW, 3 May 41
    EFTS, 14 Jun 41
    SFTS, 2 Aug 41

    > Sgt Plt, date 1941?

    57 OTU, 11 Nov 41
    41 Sqn, 6 Jan 42

    > com Prob Plt Off (124747), date 1942?

    167 Sqn, 22 Jul 42
    SD/WIA off Dutch coast & captured, 13 Nov 42
    Dulag Luft, 16 Nov 42
    Stalag Luft III, 20 Dec 42
    Marlag-Milag Nord, 8 Feb 45

    > Promotions to Fg Off and Flt Lt?

    FIC, 10 FIS, 9 Jun 45
    FI, 28 EFTS, 4 Oct 45
    FI, 3 EFTS, 1 Apr 46
    FI, 17 SFTS, 20 Aug 46

    > Dutch Air Force, NL, 6 Oct 46-12 May 48 - postings/ranks/dates?

    Airline pilot, KLM, 12 May 48
    Airline pilot, Martinair, 1974
    retired 1978

    > died when?

    Any help with the blanks would be appreciated, thanks?

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    Steve
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    Hello Steve,

    His name was Cornelis (Dick) Geesink, not Cornelius Geesink.

    In ‘Eenige wakkere jongens’: Nederlandse oorlogsvliegers in de Britse luchtstrijdkrachten 1940-1945 (Some brave boys. Dutch war pilots in the British Air Forces 1940-1945) by P.E. van Loo (dissertation, University of Amsterdam, 2013) he's called Sergeant C. Geesink and Sergeant Dick Geesink (Cornelis being his official name; Dick the name under which he was known). http://dare.uva.nl/document/501653

    After he arrived in England he was grounded for a while, bacause of an inquiry. ("Rapport van de Commissie van Onderzoek inzake Sergeant C. Geesink, 16 juli 1940"). Why - I doný know, but after a while he was given permision to fly again.

    Then: tna, air 27/1092, Operational Record Book 167 Squadron 13 november en 13 december 1942. Op 13 november raakte sergeant Dick Geesink in krijgsgevangenschap. Zijn compagnon, sergeant Brian Norwood, kwam om het leven. - Captured, while his compagnon got killed.

    He died on 28-04-1996. He rests on Cemetery Blaricum de Woensberg (NL).
    http://www.graftombe.nl/names/info/1400394/geesink

    See also: http://www.611squadronrauxaf.co.uk/n...510Honert.html
    And: Nederlands Instituut voor Militaire Historie, Den Haag, Nederlandse Luchtstrijdkrachten in Groot-Brittannië (1940-1945) Toegang 726, inv.nr. 1224: Database Vliegend Personeel in de Britse Luchtstrijdkrachten, mei 1940-mei 1945.
    http://www.defensie.nl/media/oorlogs...m46-209347.pdf

    Regards,

    Bart

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    Dear Bart

    Thank you very much for this additional information, in particular for the correct spelling of Geesink's forename. I have amended my records accordingly.

    I am still unsure, however, whether Geesink was commissioned or not, as I know he was recommended for a commission in May 42, which was endorsed from the Station Commander and AOC 11 Group, but the records at the links you provided, and your information above, both state that SERGEANT Geesink became a POW on 13 Nov 42. As such, I have e-mailed Erwin van Loo to see if he can shed any light on this.

    With thanks and kind regards for your feedback
    Steve
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    Hello Steve,

    Note 227 in ‘Eenige wakkere jongens’: "W.O 344/117/2 General Questionnaire for British/American Ex-Prisoners of War: Geesink, P/O Cornelis."
    This suggests that he was commissioned during or shortly after his POW-ship.

    Regards,

    Bart

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    Thanks Bart

    Good point. I have yet to establish the actual date, though. And I assume he was promoted in captivity to Fg Off and Flt Lt, too, but these dates also elude me.

    Regards
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    Steve, Non UK/Commonwealth pers, particularly those from occupied territories, seem not to have appeared in the LG. Taking the numbers either side of 124747 you get this:
    124745 Commissioned GD Br wef 3 Jul 42
    124746 Commissioned GD Br wef 7 Jun 42
    124748 Commissioned Eqpt Br wef 16 Oct 42
    124749 Commissioned Eqpt Br wef 18 Sep 42
    124750 Commissioned Med Br wef 16 Jul 42
    Perhaps your man was commisioned in the third quarter of 42?
    Regards, Terry

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    Hi Terry

    Thanks for typing that out. Sounds like you're right. Maybe I just need to leave it as a rough "ca July 1942".

    Cheers
    Steve
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