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    Hello All,
    I have just been looking at Bermuda (for unconnected reasons), and I note that CWGC have a number of WW2 Air Force graves on that island.
    The first 13 Mar 43 involves a Capt, a Radio Officer, and a Sgt RAFVR (all 45 Grp).
    The second 6 Feb 45 involves a Capt, a 1st Officer, and a Flt Sgt RAFVR (all 45 Grp).
    The CWGC blurb indicates Bermuda was used as a stepping-stone for ferrying a/c from the USA/Canada to Africa. Itís 600 nm to the USA from Bermuda. Itís 3000 nm from Bermuda to W Africa!!!! So was Bermuda a refuelling stop on the way from USA/Canada to the Windies, and thence Brazil, and on to W Africa rather than direct Bermuda Ė W Africa?
    I further note that the graves of personnel from both incidents are not sequentially numbered. So does that mean an a/c forced landing some distance from Bermuda and the bodies washed up on different days Ė or what?
    Whatís the stories?
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    A number of routes evolved.

    Caribbean and South America in their own right and as all year alternatives when weather wiped out the North Atlantic Route.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_air_ferry_route_in_World_War_II#Car ibbean_Air_Route

    You will note the early use of one of your old haunts for the Brazil route.

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    Good Evening Peter,

    The two aircraft involved in your query were Catalina FP116 on 13 Mar 43 and Liberator KL386 on 6 Feb 45.

    Both the aircraft crashed - it states - near Bermuda. This info comes from the book Ocean Bridge by Carl A Christie.

    In the first aircraft there were four fatal casualties and in the second there were five. Some of these won't appear on the 'public' records of the CWGC unless they were commonwealth citizens. They would be available if you asked the CWGC to include non-commonwealth persons in their care.

    As to why the people weren't buried in sequence could be for several reasons. First, they might have been recovered on different dates and so buried as and when found. It could be that the non-commonwealth personnel are buried in the intervening plots but don't show up on the 'public record'. It might be that the numbers involved was such that not all plots were taken up sequentially, so as to avoid crowding of the cemetery when it was not necessary. It might be that the bodies were buried elsewhere and subsequently 'concentrated' in the cemetery later.

    Perhaps the answer is to go to the cemetery plan and then add the names and see what comes out.

    By the way, the names are Schiller, Wilkie RAF, Collins and Ford (US citizen) in FP116 and Martin, Talbot, Coott RCAF, Lagadec and Grace RAF in KL386

    Colin Cummings

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    Colin,
    VMT yr full and rapid response. Fills in the gaps.

    Ross,
    The US SeaBeas got their heavy eqpt ashore in Landing Craft on Long Beach at Ascension in order to build the strip. I'll bet those landings were "interesting" on a large number of occasions!!!!!

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