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    Hi all,

    It is quite difficult to find the total amount of RAF casualties for Operation Jubilee. Assuming that a hundred aircraft were destroyed, here are the average figures that can be found in lots of books and websites -- are they close to the real ones?

    KIA: about 60
    WIA: about 15
    POW: about 15

    Also, could anybody help with the total amount of Luftwaffe casualties -- both aircraft and crews?

    Thanks,

    Fox.
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    Hi,

    For the German fighter and fighter-bomber units, eight pilots were killed, six were missing, and six were wounded.

    I have aircraft loss details for a couple of the units involved. Jagdgeschwader 2 reported eleven fighters lost, five badly damaged, and at least six lightly damaged. Kampfgeschwader 2 reported eleven bombers lost and at least one lightly damaged.

    Cheers,
    Andrew A.
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    Andrew,

    Thanks for your help.

    Were KG2 and KG40 the only Luftwaffe bomber units involved in the battle?

    Regards,

    Fox.
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    Hi,

    I had a little more time to do some digging today. Total Luftwaffe losses for the Dieppe action were as follows:

    Combat (caused by anti-aircraft guns or fighters)
    Light damage: two Ju 88s, two FW 190s, eleven Do 217s, one He 111
    Medium damage: three FW 190s, two Do 217s
    Heavy damage: one Ju 88, two FW 190s, two Bf 109s, one Do 217, one He 111
    Destroyed: four Ju 88s, sixteen FW 190s, one Bf 109, seventeen Do 217s

    Non-combat (but on Dieppe operations)
    Light damage: one Ju 88, one FW 190, two Do 217s
    Medium damage: one FW 190, one Bf 109
    Heavy damage: two Ju 88s, one Bf 109, one Do 217
    Destroyed: one Ju 88

    Luftwaffe units that suffered losses include:
    Jagdgeschwader 2 & 26
    Kampfgeschwader 2, 4, 40, 53 & 77
    1.(F)/Aufklärungsgruppe 33
    1.(F)/Aufklärungsgruppe 123
    Küstenfliegergruppe 106
    4.(F)/Aufklärungsgruppe Ob.d. Luftwaffe

    Cheers,
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    Thank you very much.
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    Default Jubilee Casualties

    -- are they close to the real ones?

    KIA: about 60
    WIA: about 15
    POW: about 15
    ==========================================

    The numbers that I have are not very satisfying, but these
    are the only ones I have!

    The Luftwaffe War Diaries by Cajus Bekker

    3 "The British and Canadian landing attempt at Dieppe, bloodily
    repulsed and with the loss of 106 British bombers and fighters
    (August 19, 1942)."

    Not very exciting!

    ======

    The Greatest Air Battle
    Dieppe, 19th August 1942
    by
    Norman Franks

    Total Luftwaffe claims for 19 August 112
    but not all at Dieppe.
    The two Jagdesgeschwaders made the following claims:
    JG 2................59 confirmed, plus 7 probables.
    JG 26..............38 confirmed

    Bombers claimed 6 and flak claimed several more.

    =======


    Royal Air Force Claims 19 August 1942 Bombers and fighters
    96 destroyed, 37 probables.

    FW190.........destroyed....47...probables...27.... damaged...76
    Me109.........destroyed......3...probables.....1.. ..damaged....2
    Do217.........destroyed.....33...probables....8... .damaged...46
    Ju88............destroyed......8...probables....3. ....damaged...11
    He111.........destroyed.......5

    Actual post war 48.
    Fighters.....23
    Bombers....25

    ======


    Sorties flown by RAF, and USAAF: 2,955
    including USAAF Spitfire squadrons, and B-17s.

    ======

    RAF losses: 100(approx) including some that got back to
    Britain and written off there.

    RAF aircraft losses:
    Spitfires.......lost...62.....damaged....31....acc idents....9
    Hurricanes...lost...20.....damaged....12....accide nts....2
    Mustangs....lost...10.....damaged......4.....accid ents....1
    Typhoons....lost.....2
    Bostons......lost.....4......damaged......6
    Blenheims..lost.....2......damaged.......1

    ======

    RAF aircrew losses:
    Killed in action........62
    Killed in accidents.....2
    Captured................17
    Wounded...............29

    ======



    Number of flying personnel engaged in Jubilee not including ASR.

    Single seat fighters.....pilots..730.....aircrew.....0
    Bostons Fighter Com...pilots.....4.....aircrew.....8
    Bostons Bomber com..pilots....30.....aircrew...60
    Bostons 2 Group.........pilots....28.....aircrew...56
    Army coop Mustangs...pilots....47.....aircrew.....0
    USAAF B17s...............pilots....24.....aircrew..192

    Total pilots 863
    Total aircrew 316

    These numbers are not very satisfying, but
    I don't have any others.
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    There is not a lot of information pertaining to single
    squadrons, but I will try to find answers to your 401 Squadron
    questions.

    TTFN
    Robert

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    No specific mention of Whirlwind fighters, but I guess they came under generic "single seat fighters", just no losses. Thought that people should be be aware that they were there, if they did not know already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Duxbury View Post
    No specific mention of Whirlwind fighters, but I guess they came under generic "single seat fighters", just no losses. Thought that people should be be aware that they were there, if they did not know already.
    David D
    Neither Whirlwind squadron played any direct role in the Dieppe operation: 263 Squadron was at Colerne, non-operational, from August 15th while its aircraft were being converted to fighter-bombers. 137 Squadron was plying its usual trade of convoy patrols off the east coast and was also not directly involved. 137 did however have a peripheral involvement: a Do217 of KG40 shot down into the sea on the 19th by a pair of 137 Squadron pilots, was on a shipping recce to look for allied shipping returning from Dieppe.
    HTH
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    Robert,

    Thanks a lot, it helps!

    Cheers,

    Fox.
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    Hi,

    For full coverage of Allied fighter sorties, claims, and losses on 19 August 1942, please visit Tony Wood's site, http://lesbutler.co.uk/claims/tonywood.htm, and download the Word document "RAF Fighter Command. Jan - Dec 1942" (it's the first one listed).

    Tony lists the names of RAF personnel wounded or killed, and includes details on RAF victories and losses at Dieppe. A most valuable resource!

    Cheers,
    Andrew A.
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