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    Default Lysander fatal accident at the 2 Air Gunner Schooll Inverness /// 13th october 1941

    Hi all,

    On the 13th october 1941, a Lysander crashed during a taking off at Inverness school, near Dalcros.

    I m looking for any informations about the crew members, serial and code if possible of this Westland Lysander ....

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    Michel LT

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    Hi Michel,

    RAF Casualties has the following :

    Sergeant Roger Gaignot FFAF, killed in Lysander Mark III N9136. Crashed on take off, Dalcross. 13/10/41.
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    If it helps, Roger Rene Gaignot was 22.

    It is thought probable that the accident was caused because the elevator trim was wound fully back and the aircraft came off the ground with a pronounced nose up attitude.

    I have the aircraft's serial, however, as P not N - 9136. Don't know what codes it might have been marked with.

    Colin Cummings

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    The ORB gives the TTO as AC Thild, who is recorded as being severely injured.
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    My two cents worth: N9136 was a Tiger Moth, P9136 was a Lysander II.

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    I thanks all of you for the replies.

    unfortunately, I m not able to understand what does "TTO" means ? what is that ??????


    MLT

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    It means something like: Target Towing Operator, also known as the Drogue Operator or Winch Operator and probably a couple of other variations as well.

    This is the chap who operates the winch which winds the drogue target 'banner' in and out for live firing. He would also be responsible for dropping the banner at the end of the sortie, if the banner was not wound back into its stowage. I'm not an expert on banners, their methods of fixing and how they were operated and so somebody will give you a better explanation than I have but that's the basics!!

    Bill, Thanks for the backup re 'P' rather than 'N', I've confirmed this via AB serials.

    Colin Cummings

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    Hello All,

    T.T.O. = Towed Target Operator see A.M. Pamphlet No.183.

    Regards,

    Tim

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    Sergeant Roger Gaignot FFAF was also know under the alias of Hugh James during his RAF service, after the war his remains were re-interred at Villiers-Semeuse, Ardennes. The Mk.III Lysander tugs had an electrically driven three drum winch with provision to stow 5 targets.

    Alan.

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    Default Thanks for your help....

    ..... it was not so easy to understand these details ...


    MLT

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