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    Default Sergeant Ian Robert Mackintosh (RAFVR 1253249) + KIA 24 July 1941

    Good night gentlemen!
    Again, any information related to the above airman, Sergeant Ian Robert Mackintosh (RAFVR 1253249), killed on the 24th July 1941 (probably on training) and buried on Long Lawford (St. John's Chapel) will be of most valuable help.
    Which Squadron, or OTU was he flying with? Any details of crew or aircraft identification available?
    MANY thanks in advance for any kind of help (so far I found nothing about him).
    Yours
    Adriano Baumgartner

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    Adriano,

    Wellington T2458 from 21 OTU. Combined cross-country and bombing practice. Following bombing phase at 0112 went out of control and crashed into Ufton Wood.

    Chorleys OTU losses has crew list. 4 RAF, two RCAF and one RAAF.

    Regards,

    Dave

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    Hello,

    http://www.awm.gov.au/catalogue/research_centre/pdf/rc09125z022_1.pdf

    See: p.172 of 591

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 4th December 2012 at 11:44.

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    Col Bruggy and DAVE,
    Uau!...that was really amazing...Fantastic information! MANY MANY thanks for your most valuable help indeed!
    Unfortunately I do not have access to the Advanced Search features, to search old threads; but your help was really incredible and precise.
    THANK YOU very much indeed.
    Adriano

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    Ross has clearly spelt out over and over how to access the old threads on a sticky note on the top of each index page of the forum:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?5-How-to-access-posts-on-old-board

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?11062-Forum-Search

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    Default Re: Sergeant Ian Robert Mackintosh (RAFVR 1253249) + KIA 24 July 1941

    found this today

    ACCIDENTS INVESTIGATION BRANCH

    Precis Number: W.1069
    Date of Accident: 24.7.41
    Aircraft: Wellington I.C. T.2458
    Unit: 21 O.T.U


    Brief Description: The aircraft took off from Moreton-in-Marsh at 2305 hrs on a cross-country flight to Honeybourne, Radway, Wincanton and return to Base, the flight to include half an hour's photography at Honeybourne and bombing runs at Radway. The aircraft crashed at 0112 hrs at which time it should have been flying in a south-westerly direction over the neighbourhood of South Cerney had the pilot kept to his course and time schedule. Actually it crashed about 45 miles N. E. of South. Cerney. The aircraft struck the ground at high speed in an over-the-vertical dive and was completely destroyed by fire, which broke out on impact. Examination of the wreckage revealed no evidence of structural failure. Detachable parachute packs had not been attached and the bodies of all the occupants were found among the wreckage. The instruments were damaged beyond recognition. No evidence wns found to suggest that enemy aircraft were over the vicinity at the tine. There was no noon and no clearly defined horizon. The Instructor had made only one night flight since 10.2.41.
    Cause of Accident: The accident vas due to loss of control when flying by inatrwients. The reason for this loss of control cannot be definitely established but the evidence sucsiests that it was due to lack of recent night flying practice.

    Dated 6.9.11


    Signed

    C.I. Accidents

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    Default Re: Sergeant Ian Robert Mackintosh (RAFVR 1253249) + KIA 24 July 1941

    I always wonder in these cross-midnight reports what they mean by the date.
    Was 24.7.41 the date the aircraft took off (ie the night of 24/25 Jul 41) or the date the aircraft crashed (ie the night of 23/24 Jul 41)?

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