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    Trying to find some info on T/Sgt Grieve who joined up in March 1941, he seems to have been born in Chicago and he served as a pilot. I wasnt sure about a couple of details as I didnt think T/Sgt was an RAF rank and also his number 98065 seems to fit into the "95701 to 98700 Sep-Oct 1917 RFC - civilians" which cant be right.

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    Hi Alistair

    T/Sgt is Temporary Sergeant and the Temporary refers to his status within the RAFVR/RAF and means he was filling a wartime Temporary estalishment post as opposed to a Permanent peace time one.

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    My mind had jumped to Technical Sergeant which is the bit that was confusing me, I think once I'd had that thought it was binding me to the obvious.

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    Something doesn't quite fit here?
    If Grieve's RAF/RAFVR Service Number WAS actually 98065, AND he was 18 yrs old when he first Enlisted around 1917, THEN that would make him born around 1898-1900. THEREFORE he would have been 41 yrs old when he Enlisted (again) in 1941? Where was he in the interim? Something don't compute?!!!
    Service Number (US or RAF), and Rank Title(s) - either US or RAF, would (I suggest) need to be checked thoroughly.
    Another v interesting problem!!
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    Hi,
    I should have added he wasnt born until 1920 so the number is very odd - its noted on his service and paybook which also have the T/Sgt rank so its not his officer number and the numbers are very clearly written. Pictures of boh his Service and Pay book can be seen here

    http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/ab64/grieve-1.jpg
    http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/ab64/grieve2.jpg


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    Default W.S. Grieve

    There was a Sgt W.S. Grieve with 61 OTU in April 1942.

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    Ancestry.com have a January 1942 arrival in the UK of a William S Grieve with Phillip J Fox, Herbert Milligan and Harold Goodwin. This Grieve was aged 21 then.

    They are described as "RCAF Pilots"

    so might he be R/98065 ? but i see both documents now clearly list just the five digit number, and its not an officers number either.???

    Similar RCAF NCO numbers from CWGC are:
    001 FRY WB R/98031 504 RAF SQDN 26/09/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    002 GANES JW R/98016 88 SQDN 28/07/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    003 HAWK DC R/98055 - 31/10/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    004 MCCORMICK LHA R/98027 432 SQDN 04/07/1943 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    005 MEASOR RG R/98023 - 30/08/1941 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    006 MORRISS WS R/98032 - 30/08/1941 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    007 QUEEN HA R/98092 207 RAF SQDN 31/08/1943 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    -------> 008 REYNOLDS AM R/98064 227 SQDN 31/01/1943 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
    009 SMITH MH R/98066 - 14/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE

    Note number 008 above.
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    To reply to an old thread of mine, William Smith Grieve was indeed a Canadian living in Chicago, he joined the RCAF - I'm not sure his career up until 24 April 1943 by which point he was a Flying Officer with 243 squadron, he was flying Spitfire JG713 to strafe the Pont Du Fahs road when he was hit by flak and crashed with him suffering wounds to the thigh and elbow. I'm guessing the number above should have an R/ in front of it and he would then have a later J/ number when commissioned.

    Alistair

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