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    Default Two recorded losses on EL ALAMEIN MEMORIAL

    Good morning to all!
    I am looking for more details about two recorded losses (airmen killed) on the ALAMEIN MEMORIAL. They are:
    a) Sergeant John Bilton (RAFVR 1382087), killed on 09th May 1943.
    b) Sergeant Daniel Robert George Causer (RAFVR 1810933), killed on the 15th January 1945.

    ANY information about unit, aircraft, crew or causes would be a guidance to the correct way of identifying those airmen.

    THANK you very much, in advance, for any kind of help.
    Adriano Baumgartner

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    Hello,

    For 1382087 Sgt John BILTON, see:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?8480-Unaccounted-airmen-9-5-1943

    Inconclusive, but a start!

    Col.

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    if further discussion of Bilton coudl be kep on the old forum thread that would prevent duplication.

    For Causer, he is on the memorial with 9 other RAF men with same date of death and no unit listed

    001 ASHWORTH K 1589628 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    002 BROOK RW 1587551 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    003 CAUSER DRG 1810933 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    004 CULLEN RW 1824240 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    005 GORMALLY KP 2204564 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    006 HEATON WP 1685597 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    007 LEIGHTON GB 176526 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    008 MCTAGUE JP 1821926 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    009 OSBORNE NJ 1627548 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    010 PEACE NJ 3020016 - 15/01/1945 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE

    Found using cwgc.org or http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php

    Can someone check the GRO overseas death index for a unit listing?

    I imagine they will appear in the book "Though without Anger"
    Dennis Burke
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    Malcolm's rafweb has them all on Wellington LP294 of 76 OTU (Aqir, Israel/Palestine).
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    Peter Davies
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    Dennis, Col.Bruggy and Peter,

    I am really in debt with you guys....THANK YOU so much for the "path" to follow...I really appreciate your efforts and guidances.

    Adriano Baumgartner

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    Thanks Adrian

    it might help people to know you are researching brazilian pilots in the war, as the background to the names you are seeking information on. Glad to help but note that there is a massive forum archive and soem answers might be found in there.
    Dennis Burke
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    No, the records don't appear in 'Though Without Anger', as they were not transport or SD aircraft.

    I think the clue may lie in Peter's response and reference to Malcolm's website.

    76 OTU lost two Wellingtons on 15 Jan 45: LP294 and LN957. These would possibly have a crew of five each, hence the ten names listed.

    957 is simply recorded as missing on a night navigation exercise and 294 seems to have crashed into the sea off what is now the coast of Israel.

    This is speculation on my part and I have not followed it through with a look at the Form 540 or any other evidence which might prove/disprove my comments.

    Colin Cummings

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    I was guessing nly, yesterday that this might have been a transport type, what with the numbers involved, was before the later posts clearing up the issue
    Dennis Burke
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    I have recently aquired a number of letters from sgt causer to my mother who was a friend of his, they are gentle notes about his time in cairo and other places and would be pleased to discuss them with you. stefan

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    Wellington LN957's crew was Denham G.M.A., Farquhar D.A., Lugg H.R.D., Meaker G., Moir G.M. all SAAF Personnel and on the Alamein Memorial. (85 Years of SAAF - Winston Brent)

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