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    Hi, I've had a chat in the past few days with Ronald Smyth of Shrewsbury, who will be 92 on December 24. Mr Smyth flew in the last period of the Battle of Britain with 249 Squadron at North Weald. Later he flew a PRU Spitfire from Benson and was awarded the DFC for this work. Does anybody by any chance have access to any reference work which would give the date of the award (must be 1944 or 1945) and the citation?

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    Is this your man?

    Flight Lieutenant Ronald H Smyth joined the RAFVR in May 1939 as an Airman u/t Pilot. Called up at the outbreak of war he was stationed at several different locations. With his course completed, Smyth had several short term postings, where eventually at 5 OTU, Aston Down, he converted to Hurricanes. Flight Lieutenant Smyth continued flying Hurricanes with 111 Squadron, 249 Squadron, and later with 615 Squadron. In May 1941 Smyth attended an instructors course and was commissioned in August. Later he was posted to No.1 Glider Training Squadron, a newly formed Development Unit. He qualified for his 2nd Class Air Navigators Licence while posted at the School of General Reconnaissance. Ronald H Smyth commanded the PRU in Gibraltar where he was awarded the DFC. He also ferried communications between London and Churchill at Biarritz and Atlee in Berlin for the Postdam Conference. Smyth was released from the RAF in January 1946, as a Flight Lieutenant.

    Source: http://www.directart.co.uk/mall/profiles.php?SigID=824

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    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello,

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37197/supplements/3878

    No Citation in Carter. Hugh Halliday might be able to help.

    Col.
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    There must be a citation because I have five or six for other people gazetted that date. I am prepared to bet that AIR 2/9107 at Kew will have the information re Mr. Smyth. That particular file deals with awards to "Coastal Command and Allied Personnel" and No.541 Squadron fell under the operational control of Coastal Command. Three DFM awards to Coastal Command personnel were gazetted at the same time. There were no citations in the London Gazette but Ian Tavender found very detailed recommendations in AIR 2/9107.

    If anyone follows through on this and consults AIR 2/9107, may I ask that they photograph all recommendations in order that I might transcribe them into my data bases ? I can assure anyone doing this that the information will be available for sharing.

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    Thank you for all your help. Yes Pete, definitely the same one - the information all chimes with what he told me, although he is rather modest and doesn't really like to talk about his wartime experiences. He was based at Croughton while training on gliders. While doing PRU work his path strayed with that of some B17s and the Mustang escort tried to shoot him down.

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    Hi Hellcat

    Are you able to establish the date of the B-17/P-51 close shave?

    He appears in my 249 AT WAR as having been reprimanded for shooting at a doomed Bf109 on 14 November 1940!

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    "He appears in my 249 AT WAR as having been reprimanded for shooting at a doomed Bf109 on 14 November 1940!"

    ???

    That sounds more like something that you'd expect to hear today. Being unpleasant to your enemy or infringing the 109 pilot's human rights or something like that. : ) Is there any explanation?

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    Hi Ian

    That's a strange response!

    Brian

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    Sorry, I don't know the date for the encounter with the Mustangs. He does still have his logbooks, although I haven't seen them.
    As for the thing about shooting at a doomed 109, I wish I'd known about that before speaking to him! His explanation would have been interesting. I am in touch with him through his daughter still so I'll see if she can help.

    hellcat1839

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