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    Default Twin-engined a/c losses off Frisian Islands 29-30 December 1944?

    Dear all,

    This week, I received new info on a German NF claim of a twin-engined a/c destroyed some 30 km north of Langeoog on the evening of the 29th December 1944, the a/c was claimed shot down in flames into the sea following three attacks between 20.07 and 20.15 hrs. I am aware of a 254 Sqn Beaufighter loss (NV179 QM-K, t/o 16.30 for night Rover of Dutch coast convoy route), but this particular loss fits more to a claim by another NF (Oblt. Briegleb), 50 km NW of Juist at 18.39 hrs.

    Who can tell me if there were any Allied twin-engined a/c losses, other than the 254 Sqn Beaufighter mentioned above, that could fit the NF claim north of Langeoog at 20.15 hrs?

    Cheers, Theo

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    The best I can do is a 540 Sqn Mosquito NS791 which is shown as being missing. However, I do not have any other details which might confirm/deny this aircraft being the one you seek.

    Colin Cummings

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    I've just been able to decipher the hand-written details on this claim -the a/c was claimed shot down after three attacks, starting at 500-600 metres above sea level, and the rear gunner of the a/c returned the Nachtjäger's gun fire before a burst silenced the tail gunner; the a/c was finally shot down in flames from a height of 20 metres above the sea. Judging from these details, could it be a Coastal Command or Army-Co-operation Command Wellington?

    Cheers, Theo

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    Clearly not a Mosquito then!

    When I looked, I could not find another suitable aircraft which matched the twin engined statement. Could it be that the aircraft was USAAF?

    Colin Cummings

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    Hi Theo

    It couldn't be a Army Co-op Command Wellington, as this was disbanded in 1943 and was replaced by 2 TAF, who operated Wellingtons in 69 Sqn.

    Malcolm

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    Thanks chaps, yes I also had 69 Squadron in mind, but have no access to details of any Wellington losses on this particular night.

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hi Theo, and Happy New Year to you. Hope you're well.

    I know you've referred to the target a/c as having a 'rear gunner' and a 'tail gunner' but, notwithstanding that, have you considered whether it could possibly have been a German a/c? 'Blue on blue'?

    Probably completely wrong but if nothing else (BC, FC, CC, USAAF) fits ...

    Just a thought. Shall I get my coat? ...

    Regards

    Ian

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    Hi Ian,

    Yes, I've considered 'friendly fire' too, but no documented German loss fits the bill..

    Will keep looking!

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hi

    I did some search by date, Sqdn and country on

    "Geoff's 1939-1947 Search Engine"

    Could not find casualties with twin-engined aircraft related to the area off Frisian Islands.

    Best regards

    Finn

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    Hello Finn,

    Many thanks for the effort -it does seem to remain a mystery for now..

    Cheers, Theo

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