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    Default Grammar question - number of sorties

    Hi all,

    I would like to ask for the correct grammar to be used in case when I am writing about the sorties.

    When an aircraft flew some number of sorties and than was transferred so it is quite easy:

    Z1111 completed 23 sorties with Bomber Command between October 1941 April 1942 and further 19 sorties with Coastal Command between June 1942 June 1943

    But can I use the same formulation when in fact R1516 was shot down when returning from the 15th sortie?
    R1516 completed 15 sorties with Bomber Command before being shot down ...

    Is there any stable formulation which I can use?

    Any advices much appreciated.

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    How about "whilst returning from her 15th sortie" or: "was on the return leg of her 15th sortie"?....
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    My personnal opinion (for what is worth) is that to complete a sortie means that the aircraft returned to base, and so was not shot down.

    So my understanding of "R1516 completed 15 sorties with Bomber Command before being shot down " would be that R1516 was lost during his 16th sortie.

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    Or perhaps "R1516 flew 15 sorties and did not return from her last".
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    I have to agree with Laurent, "completing" a sortie implies a return to a friendly base. I believe it would be proper to either say "completed 14 sorties and was then shot down on its next mission" or "shot down while attempting a 15th sortie", or perhaps "the 15th sortie was not completed because...".

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    How about:
    "R1516 failed to return from its 15th sortie, being shot down [add details]..."

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    Dear friends,

    thank you very much for your advices!
    I was also thinking that use of "completing" implies aircraft returned home...
    Anyway your suggestions are much appreciated as I have more that this one Wellington I am writing about and for each case a different suggestion fits better.

    Pavel
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