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    Default Death of Tom Grieves RAF 14 Jan 1939

    Hi

    Does anyone have any info on this Airman (possible aircrew and killed in accident?).

    He died on or arround 14th Jan 1939. I have a service no 345627 but that may not be correct. Sadly I have no idea as to his rank either.

    I beleive he was ex 203 Squadron based in Iraq in the 1930's as there is a Family recollection that he flew in Flying Boats in the Middle East pre war.

    I beleive he is buried in the UK but do not have that info yet.

    Sorry if this has no real GEN on the man but I am working from the basic info I have managed to find so far here.

    Any pointers etc would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers

    Al

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    The only Thomas Grieves in the England & Wales death register is in the September Quarter 1939, Age 27 in the Bedford district. He didn't died in Scotland or the Isle of Man either.
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    Think that Thomas Grieves died July 1939 in car crash will attempt to confirm details tomorrow


    Confirm Bedfordshire and lorry accident at a pit
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 3rd March 2013 at 21:20.

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    Certainly looks like it may have been a car accident.

    http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1939-07-01/1939-07-31?basicsearch=thomas%20grieves&exactsearch=false

    I've never paid to use the British Newspaper Archive site so I can only go by the few words returned by the search.
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    The Thomas Grieves in July 1939 is not the same man..

    he died as below

    CAR FALLS 20 FEET DRIVER SMOKES WHILE MEN FREE HIM When a heavy motor-driven tip cart— or dumper—fell 20 feet to the bottom of a pit at the Stewartby (Beds) works of the London Brick Company to-day, the driver was pinned underneath a mass of machinery and clay and received fatal injury to the spine. The man, Thomas Grieves (27). of Gurney Valley, Auckland Park, Co. Durham, talked cheerfully to the 20 men who took ten minutes to free him, and smoked a cigarette. He died in hospital. Grieves leaves a wife and three children, who are living in Durham.

    A servic enumber of 345627 would be in range 340001 to 360000 Sep 1919 Civilians (completed 16.6.25) so would expect Tom Grieves to be in 30's


    saying that could not find a Tom, Thomas, Grieves or Grieve on Air 27 with a service number approaching that. Nor could a quick review of all Grieves or Grieves show that service number

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    Hi Al,

    he died while serving at HQ Training Command, Buntingsdale Hall, Shropshire and, hence, is a casualty I have some details on (I research Shropshire air accidents and Air Force casualties).

    Here are my notes (I'm afraid I have no indication to service in the Middle East):

    Died 14th January 1939.
    Market Drayton and Newport Advertiser of 20th January:
    The death occurred rather suddenly on Saturday of Sergeant Tom Greaves, of Headquarters Training Command, Buntingsdale, Market Drayton. Sgt Greaves, who was single, was aged 39, and he had been stationed at Buntingsdale since the Command went there in 1935, being promoted Sergeant shortly after going to Buntingsdale. Previously he was with the command at Bentley Priory, Stanmore, Middlesex.
    He joined the RAF in 1921, prior to which he was in the King’s Liverpool Regiment. At Buntingsdale he was attached to the medical staff and he was exceedingly popular with officers and men. He was particularly interested in boys and he found an outlet for his enthusiasm by taking keen interest in the Boy Scout movement. He was Cubmaster of the troop at No. 10 FTS, Tern Hill and his boys held him in the highest regard and affection.
    At the funeral, which took place at Market Drayton Cemetery on Wednesday, full service honours were accorded the deceased airman. The coffin was born on an RAF tender and was covered with the Union Jack on which was placed deceased’s military cap. There was an escort of airmen from HQ Training Command and the firing party was provided by men from No. 10 FTS, Tern Hill while the band from No. 10 FTS in the charge of Cpl G McLaughlin was present. The bearers were NCO’s from the Training Command. At the conclusion of the service three volleys were fired over the grave.
    The service was conducted by the Rev. J W J Cartner, chaplain to the forces Regular Army Reserve and chaplain to No. 10 FTS, RAF Tern Hill. The relatives present were Mr Platt, uncle: and Miss Platt, cousin. Wing Commander J C Barraclough of HQTC attended and the medical branch at Buntngsdale was represented by Air Commodore Tyrrell, Group Captain Kelly, S/Ldr Canton and Flying Officer Jones. Representatives of the Scouts and Cubs were present in the charge of Flying Officer Bennion”.
    - Sgt Tom Greaves, RAF, aged 39. Buried in Market Drayton Cemetery.
    From ancestry.co.uk National Probate Calendar:
    Greaves, Tom of 1 Slinger Rd, Cleveleys, Blackpool died 14 January 1939 at Station Sick Quarters Tern Hill, Salop.

    I'd be interested to know if anyone in the family have a photo of him?

    Cheers,

    Tom

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    Hi

    Thanks to all who tried to help on this quest on Sgt Tom Grieves RAF.

    I would like to say the family appreciate all your time and effort here and this has help open some doors into his past.

    Again thanks and keep up the good work

    Cheers

    Al

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    Hi

    I have been told I can have a copy of a photo of Sgt. Grieves and as soon as I have it here I will contact you again.

    Again many thanks for the GEN.

    Cheers
    Al

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    Hi Al,

    that is fantastic, thank you. Just send me an email at tomthorne83ATyahooDOTcoDOTuk (replacing AT's and DOT's with appropriate). Should you wish, I can try and get a photo of his grave also.

    Cheers,

    Tom

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    Hi Tom

    I have your photo now, i willsacn it in an send iut through to you at the weekend.

    The family would really like a copy of photo of the grave if you get one.

    Cheers

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorne83 View Post
    Hi Al,

    that is fantastic, thank you. Just send me an email at tomthorne83ATyahooDOTcoDOTuk (replacing AT's and DOT's with appropriate). Should you wish, I can try and get a photo of his grave also.

    Cheers,

    Tom

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