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    Hello,

    On 28-8-1943, Cessna Crane I 8127 of 3 SFTS, was carrying out bombing exercise No.6 when it was involved in a mid-air collision and crashed at 1135, 2m NE of Calgary drome, Alberta. The pilot, AUS420664 F/Sgt James Valentine HARDIMAN RAAF was killed, and his Student Pilot, AUS428036 LAC John Loftus AYTON RAAF, was slightly injured.

    Can anyone identify the other aircraft involved in the mid-air collision? Would also like to know the fate of the crew.

    Thanks,

    Col.

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    Col,
    37 SFTS Harvard AJ796, piloted by LAC Jack Major (Pupil Pilot) killed. Will email some information that will help.
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    Alan

    In TSGNO, Allison has an M V Eckert being killed on 28 Aug 1943 in Harvard 8127.

    Clearly the aircraft Ident is incorrect if 8127 was a Crane but was he with Major in AJ796 or was he in a different aircraft?

    Malcolm

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    Hi Malcolm,
    I was just about to edit my post, as i forgot to put that M.V. Eckert was also in the Crane as a Pupil Pilot. Will email same info to you, that i've sent to Col.
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    Alan,

    Thanks for that link. l think it is as good as explanation as we'll get on this incident.

    Much appreciated.

    Col.

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    There is nothing to add from the Ancestry.com database
    Canada, War Graves Registers (Circumstances of Casualty), 1914-1948

    Other than unit allocations are

    Hardiman and Eckert are 3 SFTS
    Major is 37 SFTS
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Hi Col,

    I was just browsing the Internet for information about my Father, John Loftus Ayton and found this! I still have the rip cord release from his parachute.
    If there is any information I can help you with, please let me know.

    Regards

    Geoff.

    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello,

    On 28-8-1943, Cessna Crane I 8127 of 3 SFTS, was carrying out bombing exercise No.6 when it was involved in a mid-air collision and crashed at 1135, 2m NE of Calgary drome, Alberta. The pilot, AUS420664 F/Sgt James Valentine HARDIMAN RAAF was killed, and his Student Pilot, AUS428036 LAC John Loftus AYTON RAAF, was slightly injured.

    Can anyone identify the other aircraft involved in the mid-air collision? Would also like to know the fate of the crew.

    Thanks,

    Col.

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    Hello Geoff, and welcome.

    You have me at a disadvantage at the moment, not having access to my 420664 James Valentine HARDIMAN RAAF casualty file. Not to worry, I'll attend to that later.

    I am aware that, sadly, you lost an Uncle during WWII, namely, NX1897 Lt. Geoffrey Campbell AYTON 2nd AIF, Died of Wounds, New Guinea, 9-11-1943.

    One thing troubled my mind whilst researching your Father's career. Did he ever apply for his Caterpillar Club Badge, or its equivalent?

    Any comments you would care to add to the post in the meantime, would be most welcome.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 18th March 2016 at 08:02.

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    "I still have the rip cord release from his parachute"

    It was a tradition, in the U.S.A., (before WW2) that if a man does not keep hold of his rip cord during his descent, he stood a round of drinks

    I wonder if this tradition moved north to Canada during WW2?
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 18th March 2016 at 10:43.

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    In the RAF, if he didn't return the D-ring he was docked the cost to pay for the replacement. Cheaper than a round of drinks, perhaps.
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