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    Default Razzling Solution !!

    Just had an email, asking if i knew what "Razzling Solution" refers to in RAF parlance. It seems a relative of the person i'm in contact with, lost the tips of 3 fingers due to a combination of cold, and the mixing of water and alcohol for "Razzling Solution". Never heard of this, so hoping someone else has any ideas.
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    Alan

    I am probably way off beam and barking up the wrong tree etc but is it related to the equipment used on Razzle operations. This seems to involve "Phosphorous coated wooden strips transported in water Razzles"

    More information at: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/war-air/51521-op-razzle.html

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    Hi Alan - Razzle was the codename for a brief campaign in 1941 to burn German forests with incendiary loads.

    Cheers,

    Richard

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    Pete/Richard,
    Thanks for that, seems highly probable, and the date of 1941 ties in. But !! would aircrew be involved in mixing this stuff up ?

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    Alan

    I guess there could be two explanations:

    1. Spillage (along with cold fingers) at altitude whilst posting the containers down the chute
    2. "Boyhood exhuberance", as this combination of chemicals would have been a great diversion for anyone on a dull day.

    Just a thought

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    Pete/Richard,
    Have managed to track down details of these injuries, and it was indeed, down to Razzling operations over Germany. Text in the ORB for the squadron involved, states...The aircraft followed a land route back to base, carrying out "razzling" over Germany. Owing to the intense cold and the water/alcohol mixture of the razzling solution, the W/T operator carrying out the operation, suffered frostbite.
    Thanks for the input.
    Alan.

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    Default On the Razzle.....

    My curiousity got the better of me on this one, so I went to my mentor. His reply:
    "Razzle was a couple of pieces of celluloid with a hole in the middle filled with cotton wool and a piece of phosphorus, like a sandwich. Hundreds of them were kept in cans of water to be dropped from a chute over the Black Forest. The one squadron that I know of that was given the job was 149. The distribution pattern was determined by dropping an equal number of London bus tickets. On the first drop the chute ended at the fuselage causing the chips to be caught in the slipstream, and to stick in odd corners of the Wellingtons setting the fabric on fire. Dumb, dumb.

    Both then and for years afterwards German boys would find then somewhere where they were still wet and put them in their trouser pockets, then to be badly burned later as they dried out. So Razzles didn’t work and did more damage to us than to the Black Forest.

    The ‘Razzle solution’ is the water and alcohol that these chips were kept in. There was a little alcohol added (5%) to prevent freezing. It’s when the water evaporates that you get burned."

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    Last edited by 149Nut; 12th March 2013 at 19:06. Reason: Extra Gen

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