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    Listing a Danish pilot's Tempest operations (9-15 Mar 1945) in 33 Sqn I have had difficulties finding the full serials of the a/c (I have no decent Tempest references), jf.
    http://www.danishww2pilots.dk/sorties.php?person=43

    I am looking for the serials matching these numbers for Tempest V's:

    661
    863
    866
    880
    909
    971

    Thank you.

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    Hi Mikkel,

    Here is one possibility:

    Enemy aircraft claimed as destroyed or probably destroyed by Tempest pilots.

    Date: 25 Feb 45
    Type: Bf 109
    No. 2
    Sqn: 33
    Pilot: F/L L C Luckhoff
    Aircraft: (Tempest V) EJ880:5R-R
    Location: South of Rheine.
    Identity of victim where known: I./JG27

    See:
    The Typhoon & Tempest Story.
    Thomas,Chris & Christopher Shores
    London:Arms & Armour Press,1988.
    pp.166 & 190.

    Col.
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    Thanks, Col!
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    866 possibly EJ866 (at 33 Sqn according to Air-Britain RAF aircraft)
    863 could be EJ863, but this a/c was not at 33 Sqn according to same source

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    Mikkel,

    Here are the possible combinations for Tempest V serials:

    661 - EJ661, NV661.
    863 - EJ863, SN863.
    866 - EJ866:5R-N, SN866.
    880 - EJ880, SN880.
    909 - SN909.
    971 - NV971

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    Hi Mikkel

    I'm afraid you have set yourself an difficult if not impossible task in identifying these aircraft as 33 Sqn's ORB was not carefully compiled. It appears that the serials were acquired from a master list of the squadron code letters which was not accurately updated when changes occurred.

    All the numbers quoted in your list should have EJ or NV prefixes (SN serials had low numbers - SN355 was the last built).

    NV661 was with 33 Sqn but was Cat B on 28 Feb; it is still recorded in the ORB up to 26 March when it is shown as shot down. We know this was actually NV720, so that is probably the aircraft your man flew.

    863 could only be EJ863 however this was with 56 OTU at the time, so 863 is probably a typo for 866, 868, or 869, all of which were with 33 sqn.

    866 was EJ866 V
    880 was EJ880 R as mentioned earlier
    909 - there was no EJ or NV serial with this number; possibly a typo for NV919
    971 could only be NV971 but this aircraft was with 274 sqn at the time. Possibly a typo for NV976

    Sorry we can't do better.

    Chris

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    Chris and Col
    Thank you very much. I am certain that when you are stating that we can't do better, then we really can't !

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