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    Hi , on Behalf of a good friend i am seeking information on the Following A/G

    Sgt M Langmead A/G , flew with 103/576 Sqd's, He and the rest of the crew survived a Baling out of Lancaster LM527 on the 30/4/44 While taking part in an op to Maintenon France .

    We have been told he was awarded the DFM ? for shooting down two Enemy Nightfighters ? and was a regular crew man on Board Lancaster ED888 Mother of them all , i have the listing in Chorleys Bomber command Book for the incident on the 30/4/44 .

    TIA Phill Jones

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    Hello Phill,

    You will find most of the information you require on Sgt D W* 'Taffy' Langmead in the following:

    Ton-Up Lancs:A Photographic History of the Thirty-Five RAF Lancasters that each Completed One Hundred Sorties.
    Franks,Norman.
    London:Grub Street,2005.
    pp.72-9

    Langmead's claims were for a Me410 on 24/25-6-44 (Flers), and a Ju88 on 14/15-7-1944 (Revigny), their 30th, and final op in ED888.

    There is no DFM recorded for Langmead in Tavender.

    * Can't explain variation in forename/initials (l'll leave that to the "Genies"!).

    Col.
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    Col , Many thanks for your Prompt reply most helpful as always , My Friend Knew Langmead , as they very often had a drink together in their local Club in the Valleys some yrs back . Sadly Langmead is no longer with us

    bw Phill Jones

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    Of the 30 ops i've found for this crew, in the 576sqdn ORB, 29 were flown in ED888. The odd one was in LM527, to Maintenon.

    P/O J.S. Griffiths.
    Sgt J.D. Hawkswood.
    F/Sgt D.C. Dint.
    F/Sgt T. Atherton.
    Sgt W.J. McCarthy.
    Sgt D.W. Langmead.
    Sgt T. Jago.

    Throughout the ORB, Langmeads initials range from "M" in the early ops, to "D" and "D.W" changing frequently.
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    Alan ,

    Thanks to you also , Please may i ask if their is any mention of Langmeads claims in the ORB ? i have had a look at the AIR50 Series at the NA and nothing is available many thanks Phill

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    Hi Phill,
    Nothing at all about his claims, on either of the dates concerned.

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    hi Col Bruggy
    i cannot find a reference to the Langmead combat on 14/14 Jul in Revigny in the Squadron or Elsham ORBs - can you give me a reference for that please?
    thanks a million
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello Phill,

    You will find most of the information you require on Sgt D W* 'Taffy' Langmead in the following:

    Ton-Up Lancs:A Photographic History of the Thirty-Five RAF Lancasters that each Completed One Hundred Sorties.
    Franks,Norman.
    London:Grub Street,2005.
    pp.72-9

    Langmead's claims were for a Me410 on 24/25-6-44 (Flers), and a Ju88 on 14/15-7-1944 (Revigny), their 30th, and final op in ED888.

    There is no DFM recorded for Langmead in Tavender.

    * Can't explain variation in forename/initials (l'll leave that to the "Genies"!).

    Col.

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    Hello All,

    TNA AIR 78/94/10 46 to 51

    Langmead, ? ? ???????
    Langmead, Alfred 1449993
    Langmead, Anthony Carl 607841
    Langmead, Brian Anthony 2548933
    Langmead, C F 266063
    Langmead, D F 330250
    Langmead, David 2780798
    Langmead, David Charles 2548748
    Langmead, David Francis 1619900
    Langmead, David John 3132340
    Langmead, Edward 1664145
    Langmead, Edwin 1156528
    Langmead, Eric Edward 901997
    Langmead, Ernest William 1332234
    Langmead, F H 37025
    Langmead, Frederick William 1266696
    Langmead, Geoffrey 1673209
    Langmead, Geraint Francis 3503321
    Langmead, J ? 355??3
    Langmead, J 292385
    Langmead, Jeffrey Philip 2590303
    Langmead, John 3079587
    Langmead, Kenneth Arthur 3101514
    Langmead, Kenneth John 3036667
    Langmead, Lewis Raymond 700649
    Langmead, Mansel 1313574
    Langmead, Michael Anthony David 8075890
    Langmead, P 746764
    Langmead, Patrick John 3129066
    Langmead, R C 198165
    Langmead, Rita (nee Smith) 2810544
    Langmead, Robert Michael Goodyear 2489370
    Langmead, Ronald Charles 2547203
    Langmead, Ronald Henry 1867350
    Langmead, Stanley Francis 1325405
    Langmead, Vera (nee Soppitt) 2080024
    Langmead, William Henry 1189369
    Langmead, William Stanley 1215532

    No 'D W Langmead' as far as I can see?

    HTH
    Peter Davies
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    Peter and Phil,

    "Mansel" is a solid Welsh name!! That might add a bit of provenance for you :)

    Phil, there is another roll of unsorted 1 Group Combat Reports in the TNA, but for some reason I don't believe it's indexed. I've got a digital copy of it at home, I'll try and have a look through it this week for you.

    L/O

    Greg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe Diem View Post
    hi Col Bruggy
    i cannot find a reference to the Langmead combat on 14/14 Jul in Revigny in the Squadron or Elsham ORBs - can you give me a reference for that please?
    thanks a million
    Matt
    Matt,

    Here are a couple of the sources I used:

    The Second Raid - Homeward, 15 July 1944.

    "PA984 (156 Sqn), was shot down by a Ju 88, possibly of I./NJG 2. Flying nearby was Lancaster ED888 (P/O J. S. Griffiths, 576 Squadron), 'whose rear-gunner sighted a Ju 88 in the glow of a burning Lancaster which it was attacking'. The hungry Ju 88, not satisfied with its victory over PA984, spotted veteran ED888 and began its approach. The two gunners fired long bursts at the enemy aircraft as it attacked from the fine port quarter down. Hit many times, the Ju 88 burst into flames, dived down out of control, hit the ground and exploded.
    Although too late to prevent the destruction of PA984, Griffiths's crew had the satisfaction of destroying its probable executioner. It was, incidentally, a joyous crew that landed at Chedburgh, where it had been diverted, some hours later. They had just completed their tour of 30 operations in three months!"

    See:
    Massacre over the Marne The RAF Bombing Raids on Revigny, July 1944.
    Clutton-Brock,Oliver.
    Sparkford:Patrick Stevens Ltd.,1994.
    pp.52-3

    See also:

    Griffiths' rear gunner, a Welshman named D W "Taffy" Langmead, shot down two German night fighters, a Me 410 from point-blank range on 24/25 June (1944), then a Ju 88 on their 30th and last trip while on the bomb-run over Revigny marshalling yards on 14/15 July (1944). On this occasion they had just got a message to abort but the bomb-aimer, Charlie Bint, had the target in his sights and Jimmy told him to go ahead and bomb. Just then a Ju 88 flew right across them and then came in from behind. Taffy and the '88 opened fire at the same time, but the Ju 88's fire ceased abruptly and the fighter spun down into some cloud.

    Ton-Up Lancs A Photographic Record of the Thirty-five RAF Lancasters that each Completed One Hundred Sorties.
    Franks,Norman
    London:Grub Street,2005.
    p.75

    Col.
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