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    The RAF lost several aircraft during the Berlin Airlift (Operation PLAINFARE), including a Dakota on 24 January 1949.

    The aircraft (KN491) was returning to Lubeck with a crew of three and nineteen civilian passengers and was making a radio compass letdown at night and in poor weather. The Dakota first struck some trees and then crashed about half mile further along, being damaged extensively by fire.

    The air signaller: Signaller II L E GROUT, was killed, as were seven civilian passengers.

    Please can anybody name these civilians - I have been told their names are recorded in an American published book - or point me in the right direction?

    Colin Cummings

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    On my smartphone but is this the answer,
    http://books.google.ie/books?id=oBqkqmxFY-0C&pg=PA296&lpg=PA296&dq=john+ernest+grout+1949&so urce=bl&ots=5hHwfl9ZpH&sig=iWqtpOKiAQad1Sfdle3TZrS rM60&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sJZ-Uf3QIvP07Aa2-IHADQ&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAg

    Google grouts full name and 1949

    J E Grout

    The Candy Bombers: The Berlin Airlift, 1948/49 : the Technical Conditions ...
    *By Wolfgang J Huschke
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    Colin,

    Page 296 of "The Candy Bombers" by Wolfgang J. Huschke:

    Gudrun Giessler (from Bonn)
    Ursula Grasshof (from Bielefeld)
    Irmgard and Emanuel Kelch (from Berlin)
    Johann Lercher
    Gerti and Silvia Zimmermann (from Berlin - Dahlem)

    Regards,

    Dave

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    Gentlemen,

    I make that 21 minutes FLASH 2 BANG - is that a forum record? If not it'll be pretty close to one.

    Thank you both for your information and now to trace a copy of "The Candy Bombers"!

    Help appreciated greatly.

    Colin Cummings

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    Hello there,
    I do not wish to muddy the waters but I have casualty Henry Paterson who was killed (died) on 21-3-49.
    I cannot tie him into a particular accident but I have an interest in F/Lt Henry Paterson VR996959/142007.
    I am wondering if Henry Paterson was a civilian or a RAF pilot. F/Lt Henry Paterson servered earlier with 609 & 92 sqn. The CWGC does not seem to cover this era.
    Hoping someone can sort this tangle.
    Thanks.
    Roy

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    Hi LL,

    Take a look here:

    http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=18843

    The sole survivor was Radio Officer Hamilton.

    Col.
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    Follow the link I gave above guys, much of the text of Candy Bombers is available online and Patterson is listed in the book. The crashes appendix is fully provided.
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    Hello there,
    Thanks Col for your input, I had seen this but as my date for Henry Paterson's death was being 21-3-49 I could not tie it in, but maybe he died on 21-3-49 after the crash of York 1, G-AHFI on 15-3-49. The Aviation-Safety.Net only gives 3 crew killed out of 3 occupants. Radio Officer Hamilton is not listed as a survivor as the site does not list names, so which a/c was Hamilton in?
    Thanks Dennis for saying Henry Paterson is listed in 'Candy Bombers', so I must find it on-line.
    Again, thanks gents for your help.
    Roy

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    Text Extracted from the book

    21st March 1949:
    Lancashire Aircraft Corporation Ltd. (civil charter) Handley Page Halton, registration G-AJZZ, crashed near Schleswig-Land;
    the following died:
    Capt. Robert John Freight
    Nav. off. James Patrick Lewin Sharp
    Eng. off. Henry Patterson
    All civilian employees of Lancashire Aircraft Corporation Ltd.

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    Roy,

    Here are my sources for Hamilton (& Patterson):

    On a return flight from Tegel, Halton G-AJZZ, of Lancashire (Aircraft Corporation), struck some high ground on 21 March 1949 near Schleswigland during a BABS let down. The sole survivor of the crew of four was Radio Officer Hamilton who was thrown forty feet over a hedge, despite being seriously injured he managed to walk nearly two miles back to the airfield to report the position of the crash. After a prolonged stay in hospital, Hamilton returned to flying duties on the airlift.

    See:
    The Berlin Airlift.
    Jackson,Robert.
    Wellingborough:Patrick Stephens Limited,1988.
    pp.119-20

    and...

    Berlin Airlift.
    Pearcy,Arthur.
    Shrewsbury:Airlife Publishing,1997.
    p.81.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 30th April 2013 at 14:28.

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