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    Default KIFA 21 may 1942 at the 8 AIR GUNNER SCHOOL of EVANTON

    Hi all,

    I've two airmen killed in a flying accident during their training in Scotland (8 Air Gunner School of Evanton). The accident was on the 21 may 1942.

    They were both from tahiti (as Free French)

    - Eugène Aubry, born 15 sept. 1911 at Papeete (tahiti)
    - Ernest Gournac born 2 august 1920 at Papeete (tahiti)

    I wonder who was the pilot and who was a gunner in this team ? then what were the circumstances of this accident and the type of aircraft ????

    Good evening

    MLT

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    The crash was recorded in the No.2 AGS ORB as the accident occurred at Dalcross, there wasn't anything in the 8 AGS ORB, their last crash related entry was March 1942 and there was a month end statement in July.

    May 21st 1942, “Blackburn Botha aircraft No.W5180 from R.A.F. Evanton crashed on aerodrome. F/Sgt Telfer I 1059804, LAC Hutt L. 1216327, Cpl Gournac E.A. F.F. 30764 were killed instantaneously, LAC Aubrey E F.F. 30764 died shortly afterwards.”

    May 21st 1942, “Blackburn Botha aircraft No.W5180 from R.A.F. Evanton crashed on this Aerodrome at approximately 17.35 hours. Rear Gunner LAC Aubrey, E. F.F.30756 was extricated from the gun turret, removed to S.S.Q. for emergency treatment and then transferred to Fort George Military Hospital where he subsequently died from shock resulting from third degree burns to right hand and right leg and extensive second degree burns to the rest of his body. The other three occupants of the aircraft, F/Sgt Ian Telfer 1059804, LAC Leslie Hutt 1216327 1216327, Cpl Ernest Alexander Gournac F.F.30764 received severe multiple injuries from which they almost certainly were instantly killed and were subsequently grossly burned. The bodies were eventually removed from the aircraft and transferred to the Station Mortuary. Death Certificates for these three airmen were rendered by this Station. All other details were rendered by R.A.F. Evanton.”
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Thanks Alclark ...

    Your help will be welcome by the actual families of these to FF airmen...

    Best regards


    MLT

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    Hi Michel

    The Botha in question was W5081 (W5180 was a cancelled serial number). I believe the aircraft crashed on an attempted forced-landing.

    Keith

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    Ages are as follows: Telfer 26, Hutt 21, Aubry 30, Gournac 21.

    Some details are that after 30 minutes into a 1 1/4 hour cinegun sortie, a 'washout' message was sent but the aircraft did not return to base but diverted and appeared overhead the airfield with its undercarriage down. At the upwind end of the runway, the aircraft went into an S turn but this developed into a spin from which it crashed.

    The cause was not determined but is assumed to have been a serious technical problem.

    As an aside, the Botha had a horrible single engined capability but there is no mention of an engine failure.

    Colin Cummings

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    Thanks all for your kind help

    MLT

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