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    Default Casualties in Gladsmuir Parish Churchyard.

    Among my many friends and family who now lie in this very cemetary are 3 second world war RAF casualties.

    These are as follows.

    SGT ROBERT ALFRED BURMAN 01/10/1942 225SQN 1074868 21 YEARS OLD FROM WEST WICKHAM, KENT

    AC1 JAMES COWAN PORTEOUS 09/08/1944 1077288 38 YEARS OLD FROM CRAIGMILLAR, EDINBURGH

    SGT JOSEPH PRINGLE 08/02/1942 1359922 21 YEARS OLD FROM EDINBURGH

    I would be interested in any information of the above. I do know that Burman died in a Mustang while simulating an airfield attack. He hit HT wires at low level. The joins can still be seen today. I do not have access to my records at the moment except for what is in my computer so I dont have the serial of his aircraft to hand.

    Does anyone have any more info on these chaps.
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    Hi,

    Sgt Burman was flying Mustang serial no. AG414.

    Nothing further to add on AC1 Porteous, I am afraid.

    Sgt Pringle was killed in the crash of Wellington bomber T2608 of 21 OTU near Eastleach. The aircraft stuck an obstacle while on beacon homing practice.

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    James Cowan Porteous, 38yrs, died 9am on 9/8/44, at his home address of, 5, Hay Avenue, Craigmillar, of Pulmonary Tuberculosis, according to the Registrar of Deaths. Occupation put as Electric Power Linesman, nothing on registry about RAF trade.
    Cause of death for Burman, put as, Sudden death by Decapitation, aircraft crash, at what looks like, Lawson's Lawn, Penston Farm.
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    Thanks for that guys.
    Pretty much what happened to burman.
    I had talked to a man who helped move his body and took the rings of his hands for the mortician.
    He is also mentioned on a as yet unpublished book that I got hold of a copy of.

    As for the other two all the info helps a great deal.

    It would seem tb was quite rife within the ranks of older fitters etc.

    Do you think this was a trade thing?

    Or was anyone prone to it.
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    Anyone know who were the rest of the crew of Wellington T2608.

    I saw mention of a survivor too. Who was he?

    Thanks
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    From Chorley's Vol 7, page 98

    Sgt S Appley
    Sgt DFJ Ward
    Sgt J Pringle
    Sgt WH Griffiths
    Sgt J Crossley

    No survivors listed.

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    From http://www.wellingtonaviation.org/

    8th February, T2608 hits a tree while low flying at Brize Norton, only one crew member survives.

    Anyone know any more or does this account need amending?

    Thanks for the info Dave.
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    ORB for No.21 OTU AIR29/665 has

    "It was a pupil crew and over Brize Norton they hit a tree with the starboard elevator, pulled up, stalled and spun into the ground. There was only one survivor and the others were killed;"

    It goes on to list the five airmen given by Chorley.

    Form 1180 however gives the casualties as
    5 Killed
    1 Injured

    So looks like a unnamed injured survivor in addition to the five casualties given by Chorley.

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    Thanks Ross.

    If anyone knows who the survivor was please post here.

    Thanks to everyone.
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