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    Default 78 Squadron help please

    I am trying to find out firstly who the pilot of this aircraft was and how many operations the crew had completed before they were lost.

    Halifax MZ631

    Lost on the 12/13 June 1944 after leaving Brieghton to carry out an attack on rail facilites.
    the aircraft crashed at Longueil Seine-Maritime.


    F/S S.A.Rae RNZAF KIA
    Sgt R.E.Miles KIA
    F/O H.Sager RCAF KIA
    Sgt F.G.Tomlinson KIA
    Sgt H.G.Colwell KIA
    Sgt F.E.Spinks KIA
    Sgt T.Gilmartin KIA "

    Any information would be very helpful,
    Regards
    Brett
    Last edited by brett361975; 14th April 2008 at 12:08.

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    Rae was the pilot - see also http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/cenotaph/RecordDetail.aspx?SearchID=733390&Ordinal=6&Origin alID=31034

    Cheers

    Eddie

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    Brett,

    From my forthcoming Vol Three of 'For Your Tomorrow - A record of New Zealanders who have died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services Since 1915':

    For Your Tomorrow - A record of New Zealanders who have died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services Since 1915:

    RAE, Flt Sgt Stanley Allan.
    NZ423420;
    b Thames 12 Jan 15;
    Hamilton TColl (1st XV);
    police constable - NZ Police, Auckland.
    RNZAF Nelson as Aircrafthand (GD) 27 May 42,
    remust as Airman Pilot u/t & ITW 3 Sep 42,
    3EFTS 16 Oct 42,
    1SFTS 20 Dec 42,
    Pilot Badge [wef 15.3.43] & Sgt 6 May 43,
    att RAF & emb for UK 29 May 43,
    12PD&RC 8 Jul 43,
    14(P)AFU 3 Aug 43 [att 1542BATF c.26 Aug-1 Sep?],
    10OTU (Whitley) 21 Dec 43,
    41 Base for 1652HCU (Halifax) 20 Mar 44 [hosp 26 Apr-5 May],
    78 Sqn (Halifax - 6 ops) 27 May 44,
    kao 13 Jun 44.
    Longueil Churchyard - British Plot. grave 2, Seine Maritime, France.
    Son of William Michael & Lucy Caroline Rae (née Bell), Auckland; h of Thelma Alice Rae (née O'Donnell) & f of 1s, Grey Lynn, Auckland.
    [phot. TWN 20.9.44].

    Our of curiosity, may I ask what your interest in Rae is, please?

    Errol

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    Thank you for the information,

    I have the medals of Sgt Ronald Miles who i am led to believe was the flight engineer. I am told he joined the RAF in 1940, but his medals consist of a 39-45 star, war medal and France and Germany star.

    To be awarded the Aircrew Europe star he would have to have been on flighing ops for three months and i am wondering if he qualified.

    If i have the details wrong of the Aircrew Europe star this is the information i have been told and if i am wrong i appologise.

    Thank you once again
    Regards
    Brett

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    Brett

    you are quite right in your assumption that Miles was the Flight Engineer, he was posted into the Squadron from 41 Base along with FSgt Rae and the rest of the crew on 27 May 44.

    Rae flew his first op on the night of 31 May 44 as a second pilot with WO Claes RAAF and crew to Trappes.

    The first operation undertaken as a complete crew was on the eve of D-Day when the Squadron attacked Mont Fleury. Another four operations followed:

    Night of 06 Jun 44 St Lo
    Night of 07 Jun 44 Juvisy
    Night of 09 Jun 44 Laval Airfield
    Night of 12 Jun 44 Amiens from which they failed to return.

    Hope this is of help

    Daz

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