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    A year ago Henk Welting lost his struggle with life and passed away.

    His posts on Unaccounted airmen/airwomen have periodically risen to the top of the forum as a new generation of researchers has found and added to the seed he planted but the absence of his new postings has had a marked effect on the board in my opinion.

    Henk had put considerable work into answering his own questions before coming to the board with the outstanding items that he could not clear with his own extensive information sources. What had become apparent was that a large number of people were all chipping away at the same questions off board and a collaboration soon came up with the goods to all interested parties then and since.

    I hope that those who took on the custodian duties for Henk's work will realise that what was called "his legacy" consists not only of the database that he created but also of his kindness in using it to answer the questions of others and his "Unaccounted" posts to spark and aid collaboration of research.

    Come on gents lets have the unseen "Unaccounted" trickle running again in memory and continuation of Henk's passion rather than let it end as a hidden database sitting on a few hard drives and Henk's posts on this forum.

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    Here here (or is that hear hear)

    I no longer have the time I used to have to devote to it but I'd still try. There's still 100's of DOAS, KOAS men/women out there with no unit on CWGC. Also I dont have Henks data or any reference library worth talking about. I've no time for secret databases, may as well not exist.

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    For what it is worth, I totally agree. Although my part in answering Henk's questions was minor, I have no idea who currently holds this database, nor what the plan is to make the information available. I do not believe that this serves as a suitable legacy to Henk's wonderful work.

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    Can someone with access let me know if the list can be broken down by service? For example, can I get a list of all outstanding RCAF cases from the Unaccounted series?

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    Dear Aqll,
    Sad to recall that it has been a year since Henk departed.

    His work on Unaccounted Airmen and Women had a start date I beleive of June 1940 up to Mid September 1943 with a couple of odd ones in 1944.
    Not all of his questions were solved in that period but there are only a few that remain unanswered as far as I can recall.

    Just an idea that I throw out to you all, if we can set our sights on firstly completing 1943 period on his behalf perhaps Day per Day.
    Someone could check the CWGC site and list here on this Forum those that have the days date.
    Others can then dip their toes in and help answer with known details. As they did for Henk.
    Then with luck by the end of this year 1943's list will have been completed. Then maybe next year set our sights on 1944 and onward ?

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    Important that the thread TITLES follow Henks format, start ALL these threads TITLES with the date in THIS format

    430924 yymmdd
    That will allow them be sorted by date. Very important for indexing.

    See the thread titles on the index
    http://www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/henksthreads.html

    Scroll down to see format I refer to.
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    My sentiments exactly Ross,
    I miss Henk's posts as I quite often found myself researching outside my chosen field just to give something back to him for all the additional information he was giving to us all.

    Alan.

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    Ross, et al,
    Where can this list of UAs be found? I, like others, do not have an extensive library, and I cannot get to TNA. But I am relatively computer literate (do I hear hollow laughter from Lyffe?) and I do have some time now I'm in my dotage!
    If we knew where the list was, and if we knew what was required, and if we knew where to send anything we found, then I am sure that by parcelling out 10, 40, or 100, 'names' to various folk you could re-energise Project Welting. I would be pleased to help.
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    There is no list, Henk was creating it. He had the CWGC registers and he had commuted all the names to spreadsheet.

    Those names that he could account for from Bomber Command losses, Coastal Command losses, Fighter Command Losses, from webpages, from other books, from post on this and other forums.

    What he was left with then were the invariable llist of those who died of natural causes or road crashes etc, the Died on Active Service (DOAS) people.

    The others are the many personel killed on non front line crashes in the UK, those who were with OTU's, radio Schools, Armament Camps, MU's etc, who were Killed on Active Service (KOAS).

    Henk was creating the llist.

    Some of it can be easily derived from Geoff's search engine by searching for those with no unit listed. But for example all the BC OTU losses are in that Volume. Henk's data will have cleared out any that he could account for.

    he was not working from an unaccounted list in the NA or elsewhere as they knew why everyone deid, they just failed to reflect this to the CWGC and the rest of us.

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    Well done, Dennis (and, of course, Mrs Dennis!!). Got to get The Priorities right. Welcome Dennis Junior!!
    Rgds to all 3
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