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    Hi,

    On 20th December 1939 an aircraft from the Bristol Works crashed into the sea near Bristol Harbour. Flt Lt Deacon suffered fatal injuries in the crash.

    The only Flt Lt Deacon on CWGC is Flt Lt Air Arthur Deacon who died on 24 November 1939. Maybe the date is an error and should be 24 December.

    Anyone know the aircraft he was flying?

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    Hi Alex,

    You might want a gander here:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/14748.html

    Regards,

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    Hi Dave,

    Thanks. So the identity of the pilot is still a mystery.

    Regards,

    Alex

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    Looking at the entry in Flight Testing Accidents it looks to me as though the pilot would have been a civilian TP for Bristol.
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    Hi,

    Thanks for the additional info. Flight Global issue 21 December 1939 has Plt Off A A Deacon as killed on active service. The info I got on Flt Lt Deacon came from 263 Sqn ORB.

    Alex

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    That (KOAS) fits with the entry in the 9 B&GS ORB which references P/O Deacon.
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    Don't know serial but the pilot killed was according ti Saturday 23 December 1939 , Western Daily Press , Bristol, England

    Paul Carodyce le Mesurier Deacon (30). a pilot of Beaufort Read, Clifton, Bristol

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    Paul, I know you'll already have looked him up, but for the benefit of others, his death was registered in the 1st Quarter of 1940 in the Bristol district.
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    According to Rennison "Wings Over Gloucestershire", the aircraft was from the Bristol Flying School and was flown by Deacon. His body was washed ashore at Avonmouth and this would be feasible given the tidal patterns of the Severn.

    I suggest that, in the absence of accident card/report, one does not agonise too much about Deacon's rank as recorded on the CWGC site. The CWGC record the rank given to them by the services and hence Deacon might have been recorded on the unit records/in the press as a P/O but his promotion to F/L - entirely possible in the rapid expansion then taking place - was already approved but not promulgated.

    It is also worth noting the way the RAF contracted out much of its flying training, particularly of reserves, to civilian schools and these were eventually absorbed in to the wider training scheme, with instructors being 'called up' and given service ranks. Many aircraft remained with their civil serials until sequestrated by the RAF and - eventually - given a service number (and even a coat of paint!).

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    Firstly Paul Carodyce le Mesurier Deacon was a member of the Reserve of Air Force Officers (RAFO) with a rank of Flight Lieutenant, so this explains the 'Fl/Lt' Reference

    Secondly, he will not be on CWGC and the RAF in its infinite wisdom do not consider him to be a 'Serving Officer' for the conflict(even though he is RAFO) - he is the second person who I know of who falls into this category there will no doubt be others

    Thirdly, for some reason he has a file on the national archives in AIR 76/129/93 - But as he born in 1909 not first world war record.. Any idea of what this could be?

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/D8253317?descriptiontype=Full&ref=AIR+76/129/93


    Fourthly re: The Western Airways de Havilland DH.84 Dragon G-ACJT

    I suspect this is the pilot

    WESTON AIR FATALITY
    Pilot Killed in Civil 'Plane Crash A 'plane belonging to
    Western Airways had just taken 'off at Weston-super-Mare. Somerset, yesterday for Cardiff, when It was seen to be falling. The machine crashed on the edge the flying field and the pilot, Mr Leslie Ivor Arnott, who was the only occupant, received injuries, from which he died in hospital. This is the first fatal accident since Western Airways started their cross- Channel air ferry service between Weston and Cardiff some four years

    Death registered Q1 1940 at Weston aged 35

    Note: Not 6 occupants as per http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=24930

    Fifthly full article Saturday 23 December 1939 , Western Daily Press , Bristol, England

    ITEMS OF LOCAL NEWS

    Pilots Crash Into Sea The
    The inquest was opened at Bristol yesterday on Paul Carodyce le Mesurier Deacon (30).
    a pilot of Beaufort Read, Clifton, Bristol, and adjourned until January 19.
    Deacon, who was stated by his uncle to be a pilot of considerable experience, was killed when the 'plane
    he was piloting crashed into the sea on Wednesday.

    Which is Wednesday 20 December 1939


    Finally a death notice reveals

    le Mesurier Deacon, Paul Carodyce, beloved husband of Pilar (nee d'Sala). Funeral, Olveston, near Bristol, Saturday, December 23 1939


    We are still looking for a aeroplane crash at sea for this date

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