431007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 7-10-1943

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

These from Henk's lists

UK
BRUMWELL, John Edward - Sgt(A/g) - 2220180 - Shrewsbury General, Shropshire.
BUTTERY, arthur - AC1c - 1207240 - Stoke-on-Trent(Tunstall), Staffordshire.
DARK, Albert Thomas - Cpl - 947704 - Worcester(Astwood), Worcestershire.
EDWARDS, Donald William Jack - AC2c - 1668402 - Kington, Herefordshire.
FINDLAY, Charles Robert - AC1c - 1560275 - Helmsdale, Kildonan, Sutherland.
HARVEY, John Oswald - Sgt (Nav) - 1622027 - Leeds(Lawns Wood) Yorkshire.
HUNT, Derrick - Sgt(Pilot) - 1319717 - Dunkerton (All Saints), Somerset.
MOORE, Albert Edward (Ted) - AC1c - 1524784 - Flixton (St Michael), Lancashire.
SMITH, Willian Thomas - AC1c - 1380385 - St Breock, Cornwall.

ALGIERS
COOKMAN, Basil Thornton - LAC - 1212798 - El Alia, Algeria.

And these extras from the CWGC and Geoff's sites.

CANADA
ASTELL, Eric William - LAC - 1603562 - Metis Beach, Quebec.
GRESTY, George Kenneth - Cpl - 1040820 - Regina, Saskatchewan.

INDIA
BELL, Francis George - AC1c - 1688451 - Ranchi, India.
LAWRENCE, Dennis Ian James - AC1c - 1656599 - Ranchi, India.

IRAQ
MARSH, George Griffith - LAC - 641763 - Basra, Iraq.

Alex

[dennis_burke]

Brumwell, Buttery Edwards, Moore, Cookman, Lawrence and Bell all DOAS.

You can check for DOAS names at the file i uploaded Alex.
http://www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/flightsa/

[wwrsimon]

I've got LAC Marsh KOAS (Flight Magazine October 16th 1943) in my notes - nothing further unfortunately.

Regards

Simon

[Dick]

Hi Alex
The places of death registration for some on your list.
Buttery,29, Stoke on Trent, suggests death at home on leave or to or from leave
Dark,23, Bridgenorth, Shropshire not uncommon for a death at RAF Cosford or in the Hospital there
Findlay.41, Huntingdon
Harvey,36 and Hunt,22, both registered at Bathavon Somerset which may connect them (say instructor and pupil in a flying accident)
3 possibles for Moore- age 31, Oldham Lancs, 37, Warrington Lancs and 30, Huntingdon, which might connect him to Findlay above
Smith,30, Bodmin, Cornwall
Brumwell and Edwards did not show on the Eng and Wales register
Regards
Dick

[dennis_burke]

Gresty died of illness in Canada, found from ancestry.com

J E Brumwell's death is registered in Drainie district, Moray, Scotland

I canot find D W J Edwards in Scotland or the isle of Man. Maybe died in Northern Ireland. It might be a mix up in his names maybe.

From the GRO index
LAC G G Marsh is listed with 119 MU
F G Bell and D I J Lawrence are both with 184 Wing the deaths must be related.
E W Astell is listed with 9 Bombing and Gunnery School
G K Gresty is listed with 2 ITW.
B T Cookman is listed with 144 B.I.U. that a new one for me. There was it seems 144 MU based there at this time, might be a typo on the part of the GRO.

[thorne83]

Hi all,

Dark took his own life while serving at RAF Bridgnorth.

Just a minor point Dick, deaths at RAF Cosford are registered at Wenlock, never at Bridgnorth. Death registered in Bridgnorth are either going to be those that occurred in the RAF Hospital, Bridgnorth, the station itself, or in the surrounding countryside.

Cheers,

Tom

[COL BRUGGY]

Hello,

Re: Harvey and Hunt. Probably aboard 301 FTU Beaufighter V8470, which crashed nr. Dunkerton, 4m from Bath, whilst low-flying.

Col.

[Dick]

Thanks Tom
It's been a while since I looked up the registers for the Forum and I forgot about Wenlock
Thanks again
Dick

[wwrsimon]

Hello

UK
BRUMWELL, John Edward - Sgt (A/G) - 2220180 - the Statutory Death Register on the Scotland's People website records that he died at R.A.F. Lossiemouth due to a fractured skull, the result of a 'propeller accident.' The Graves Registration Report Form lists his unit as 20 O.T.U.

EDWARDS, Donald William Jack - AC2c - 1668402 - there's a Ronald W. Edwards, aged 21, registered Huntingdon, December 1943. The Graves Registration Report Form lists his unit as 231 M.U.

HARVEY, John Oswald - Sgt (Nav) - 1622027 and
HUNT, Derrick - Sgt(Pilot) - 1319717 - their respective Graves Registration Report Forms confirm their unit as 310 F.T.U [EDIT - 301 F.T.U. as per Col's posts #7 and #11 - sorry!].

MOORE, Albert Edward (Ted) - AC1c - 1524784 - the Manchester Evening news of October 12th 1943 carried the following announcement:

MOORE - In October, 1943, as result of road accident, A.C.1 ALBERT EDWARD (Ted) MOORE (R.A.F.), beloved husband of Doris Moore, of 13, Porlock Road, Flixton, aged 41 years.

INDIA
BELL, Francis George - AC1c - 1688451 - the Newcastle Evening Chronicle of October 23rd 1943 reported the following:

A.C.1 Francis George Bell, R.A.F., son of Mrs. E. Bell, of 27, Springfield Road, Winlaton, is officially reported to have drowned in India.

Regards

Simon

[malcolm_raf]

Hi

If Bell drowned, its possible Lawrence was also involved.

Also if Edwards was registered in Huntingdon, perhaps he was connected to the death of Moore as he was also registered in Huntingdon? Another one registered in Huntingdon was Findley.

Malcolm