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    Hi All,
    I have a trip across the pond and I am hoping to visit the NA, I am trying to find an aircraft flown by w/c walter on 31 aug 1941.
    It was a first aircraft ( a blenheim ) to land at harrowbeer airfield, so would it be common pratice for an aircraft from group command to land, or would it be from an airfield inspector unit ?
    any ideas/suggestions where I can look ?
    cheers
    Jerry

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    Jerry,
    rafharrowbeer.co.uk (under personnel), gives his unit as 500sqdn at the time he flew in.
    Alan.

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    Hi
    thanks but not 100 % sure if this is right
    I dont think 500Sq had blenheim If,
    IV's yes


    w/c walter was a bit high to be on 500 Sq and I havent found him mentioned elsewhere with 500 Sqn

    ......Edit.......... I have found C.O.'s of 500 SQn were W/C from june 40- july 44, but c walter is not mentioned .....

    previously in 1940 he had commanded 67 fighter wing in france, (apparently he was on one of the last RAF a/c out of france, and his units were covering the lancastria )

    I am wondering if be was part of 10 Gp command

    from NA/PRO
    10:05 31.aug 1941 w/c walter MBE flying a blenheim I touched down for affiliation with a local army unit carrying out defence excercises
    after a visit by the inspector general a 500 Sqn det arrived on the 15th sept
    thanks
    Jerry
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    Hello,

    19232 W/C Cyril WALTER OBE RAF (later RAFO).

    Col.

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    Hi Jerry,
    Can I ask where the identification of the aircraft as '1f' came from?

    I have just looked at the Harrowbeer ORB and it says ...
    '1005. First aircraft landed on the aerodrome piloted by Wing Commander WALTER'.

    No further info on a/c, but it does say that W/C C Walter had been part of a group of visitors at 0830 that same day. Also, 500 Sq arrived on temporary attachment 15 September and Group Captain Walter (note rank) visited the station on 22 September. 500 Sq left October 6 at 1100.

    Hope this helps,
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    Hello,

    Worth a read on the subject of No.500 Sqn's move to Harrowbeer, is:

    Ensor's Endeavour:A Biography of Wing Commander Mick Ensor DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar, AFC RNZAF & RAF.
    Orange,Vincent.
    London:Grub Street,1994.
    pp.38-40

    Mick Ensor, and 63448 P/O Howard Morley Saville GREEN RAFVR, were part of the detachment based at Harrowbeer from 15 September to 6 October, 1941.

    Col.

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    Jerry

    It could be that Walter was simply flying a 500Sqn a/c? I can't find his name linked to 500Sqn. Perhaps he was on the staff at 16Group or possibly Bircham Newton. Might be worth checking those ORBs?

    Steve

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    Bruce
    'If' must have been a typo by me
    Cyril Walter went to (T) Gp Capt 01 Dec 1941
    So its the same man
    I presume the (T) means temporary

    Col
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    Steve
    Thanks I will check 16Gp & bircham as well as 10 Gp
    Could be a 500 Sq a/c but I can't find anything stating they had the mark I
    therefore I am thinking it was a Gp aircraft ? or st flt where ever he was from ?

    Jerry

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    I'm not sure if you are still chasing information on this one, but on the 9th of August 1941, Wg Comd Cyril Walter was promoted to Acting Group Captain and given command of RAF Station Exeter. I understand that Harrowbeer started life as a satellite airfield to Exeter, so this makes sense.

    Rgds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny View Post
    I'm not sure if you are still chasing information on this one, but on the 9th of August 1941, Wg Comd Cyril Walter was promoted to Acting Group Captain and given command of RAF Station Exeter. I understand that Harrowbeer started life as a satellite airfield to Exeter, so this makes sense.

    Rgds

    Jonny

    Hi
    Thanks for the info, so it gives the option it might have been an aircraft from exeter station flight
    I must check the exeter Srb
    cheers
    jerry

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