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    I have a Bomber Command Loss Card which has some handwritten information on the back, including the state of the pilot and F/E when the other crew members baled out. My current quest is to find the original source(s) of that information.

    It made me wonder what the process was for Loss Cards (ie when were they produced, who produced them, where were they sent / stored and who would have written on the reverse and when).

    Can anyone shed any light on the matter?

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    Pete
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    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Pete

    The Bomber Command Loss Card I have for my uncle’s aircraft which was shot down on operations to Hanover on 27 September 1943 has the following on the back of the card : -

    “159/110-116 : 7 unknowns with Robert Taylor 1439016 (PW) : Stir 27/9 : inbound? illegible word”

    Robert Taylor was the bomb aimer and the seventh person whose fate was unknown was a second pilot, Leonard Clay.

    My grandparents received a letter from the Casualty Branch of the Air Ministry dated 10 November 1943 which indicated that the International Red Cross Committee had received official German information saying that Robert Taylor was captured and the seven other occupants were dead. The letter goes onto to say that my uncle would be recorded “missing believed killed” and his death would not be presumed until at least six months from the date when he was reported missing. Further correspondence in May 1944 detailing his estate would appear to confirm his death was presumed by that point.

    I would assume that the note on the back of the card was written after November 1943 but before May 1944. Unfortunately, I do not know who would have transcribed the additional information.

    Douglas

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    Douglas

    Thanks for the feedback.

    The reference numbers you quote are similar to the ones on mine; I was wondering if they were German Communique numbers or Red Cross Numbers.

    I thought some of mine were from the POW questionnaires, but the references don't tie up.

    That is what got me thinking about who would have the authority to write on them and when

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Pete

    I don't think the numbers were related to the Red Cross. I should have said I also have a letter from the Red Cross dated 11 November 1943 which was obviously a follow up to the letter from the War Ministry. There is no evidence of those numbers on the Red Cross letter.

    Regards

    Douglas

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    Thanks again Douglas

    The numbers are similar to the reference numbers seen on service records, so they could just be the recorders reference.

    Would be interested to hear what others think

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello,

    I have seen the interesting case of a loss card containing information extracted from Bomber Command ORS Report No. K.135 and it was simply referenced K135.

    Best wishes,

    Jérémie

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