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    Default Aircrew But No Squadron Details Concerning Death

    Hi everyone,

    My question is to the fact that I have details of aircrew that died but not assigned to a squadron - as checked per CWGC website - as in the case of:-

    Sgt Hubert Kilwa Jones (W/Op-AG) - 1186654 - Died 3/1/42 alas no Squadron.

    If you knowledgeable persons could enlighten me as why this is the case then it would clear up this small query for me. I have my thoughts on this matter and that is he was killed away from squadron duties i.e. accidental death - maybe road accident, or natural causes.

    Looking forward to finding out the answer to this case as it could or maybe apply to all other aircrew information of the same ilk I have at hand.

    Cheers.

    Steve.

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    Hello Steve,

    The CWGC usually doesn't name the unit in the case of:

    training units
    RAAF personnel

    So your man could be with a training unit.

    regards,

    Bart
    Last edited by Bart FM Droog; 16th April 2008 at 13:59. Reason: typo

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    In this case it was an OTU loss:

    Wellington T2953 23 OTU

    All crew killed:
    P/O R P Hay
    Sgt R B Murphy RAAF
    Sgt B B Connell RAAF
    Sgt J H Marshall
    Sgt H K Jones

    T/O Pershore with a screened pilot, two pupil pilots and two wireless operators to practice circuits and landings. During the exercise the weather deteriorated and at about 0900, while turning at very low altitude (probably trying to line-up with the runway) lost control and crashed into a thickly wooded aea. Both Australians were laid to rest in Pershore Cemetery; P/O Hay, the son of Professer Robert Hay and Janet Hay, was taken back to Scotland and buried in Huntley Cemetery; Sgt Jones rests in Wales at Llanidloes (Dolhafren) Cemeter, while Sgt Marshall's name is inscribed on pannel 11 of the Screen Wall at Chingford Mount Cemetery

    Chorley's BCL Vol 7

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    Hi Amrit and Bart,

    Thanks for the answers to my post, very interesting indeed, now it give me the basis look elsewhere concerning other aircrewmen who I have no answers too.

    Nice one.

    Cheers.

    Steve.

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    Both the RAAF mens Casualty files are scanned online at the Australian National Archive Steve.

    Pop both their service numbers in the search engine.
    403143 Murphy
    403041 Connell

    http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ResearcherScreen.asp
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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