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    Default ORB RAF North Front (Gibraltar)

    Could anyone tell me what are the NA reference numbers for the Station ORB for RAF North Front (Gibraltar) for 1941 and 1942, as I can't seem to find them in the online catalogue.

    Also has anyone by chance had a look at them? If so do they contain take off and landing times.

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    Andy Fletcher
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    Hi Andy,
    They start at AIR 28/305.

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    Andy,
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    As long ago as 1996 I checked several RAF Gibraltar documents at TNA in Kew, so make allowances for a faulty memory ! This was in connection with P-38s transiting through Gibraltar for North Africa c.December 1942.
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    The ones you want are;
    AIR 28/305 (N.F.), May to December 1942 ORB
    AIR 28/309 (N.F.), September 1942 to March 1943 Appendices.
    Unfortunately there seem to be no ORBs/Appendices earlier than these dates.
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    From my notes I would say the Appendices are the more useful to you. I don't think they have serials for RAF or US aircraft in transit (with a few exceptions), but contain details such as '2 Spitfires landed 16.45 and 17.50' and '16 Hudsons of 48 Squadron landed between 11.34 and 15.40' (both 23 Dec. 1942).
    If I recall correctly sorties by aircraft based on North Front are described in detail with times, but no serials or crew names only aircraft letters.
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    Do not forget the Gibraltar Command ORBs and Appendices in AIR 24.
    AIR 24/715, Dec. 1941 to Dec. 1942 ORB
    AIR 24/719-728, January to December 1942 Appendices ( January-March in AIR 24/719 with each of the other months having a full document to themselves).
    The AIR 24 documents probably repeat most of the information in the AIR 28 books but probably still worth consulting. I know I checked AIR 24/728 for December 1942 but cannot find my notes right now !
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    Me again Andy, there is also AIR 29/866 which may help. If you tell me what you are looking for I can have a look on Tuesday.
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    Martin and Bruce,

    Many thanks guys for the references. It seems that there is nothing for 1941 and much of 1942.

    Bruce,

    Thanks for your offer to have a look. I'm interested if any documents list details (take off/landing times, serials etc) for PR and GR aircraft operating from or transiting through North Front during 1941 and 1942.

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    Andy Fletcher
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    No problem, will let you know what I find.
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    Hi Andy
    If you are interested in GR a/c don't forget that many such flights were in flying boats based in the harbour. My time at Gib was 1958-1960 when the Flying boat Hangar was the base for a Marine Craft and the separate(largely unused) domestic site was known as RAF New Camp, a satelite of North Front . I never enquired how old the name was but New Camp activity might have warranted a separate ORB if it was in use in the early 1940's
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    Hi Andy,
    Thanks to Dick, I will add AIR 28/303 and 304 to the 'look-at' list.
    Cheers Dick.

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    Thanks guys. I think New Camp does date back to WWII but I thought it was later in the war (ie post 1942) but I'm not 100% certain.

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    Andy Fletcher
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    Bruce,

    Your PM inbox is full.

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    Andy Fletcher
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