431124 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 24-11-1943

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

431124 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 24-11-1943

From Henk's list -

WAAF
DAVIDSON, Emily - (Born MUNTZ, CANADIAN, emigrated to UK) - Flg/Off - 636 - M.I.D - WAAF - Leuchars, Fifeshire.

CANADA
CHRISTIE, Robert Thomas - LAC - 817291 - RAFVR - Calgary (Burnsland), Alberta, Canada.

ITALY
BOWMAN, Cyril Thomas - Sgt (WoP/A/G) - 1291113 - RAFVR - Staglieno, Genoa, Italy.

UK
LAWRENCE, Harold Leslie - AC1 - 1033578 - RAFVR - Liverpool (Allerton), Lancashire.
WINTON, Alexander John - Sgt (A/G) - 1570461 - RAFVR - MacDuff (Myrus), Banffshire. [Halifax II - JB926 - 1658 HCU ].

From CWGC & Geoff's sites -

CANADA
GUTTRIDGE, Colin Stewart - Sgt (Pilot) - 1571579 - RAFVR - Swift Current (Mount Pleasant), Saskatchewan, Canada.
SOWERY, Edward - Sgt (Pilot) - 1452698 - RAFVR - Swift Current (Mount Pleasant ), Saskatchewan, Canada.
YOUNG, Maurice Allan - LAC - 1566032 - RAFVR - Quebec City (Mount Hermon ), Quebec, Canada. [ Anson V - 12133 - 8 AOS ].

INDIA
JURY, John - F/S (WoP/A/G) - 1072406 - RAFVR - Calcutta (Bhowanipore), Kolkata, India.

SOUTH AFRICA
LANGLEY, Frank Curtis - Sdn/Ldr - 11233 - RAFVR - George Cemerery, Western Cape, South Africa.

UK
ATKINSON, Edward Smith - P/O (A/G) - 149561 - RAFVR - Stockport, Cheshire.[ Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU ].
BROWN, John - F/O (Pilot U/T) - 51513 - RAF - Winlaton (St. Patrick) Churchyard & Hookergate, Durham.(?) [ Harvard II - 2739 - 37 SFTS, Canada ].
CORBETT, John Edwin - Sgt - 1564456 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.
DINES, Frederick Albert - P/O (Pilot) - RAFVR - Dedham (St. Mary), Essex. [ Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU ].
FERGUSON, Donald - Sgt - 1021760 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.
FERNANDES, Robert henry James - F/O (Nav) - 124160 - RAFVR - Montrose (Sleepyhilllock) , Angus.
GANLY, Harry - Sgt (Flt/Eng0 - 1235889 - RAFVR - Harrogate (Stonefall), Yorkshire. [ Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU ].
HALL, John Donald - Sgt (A/G) - 1590860 - RAFVR - Corbridge-On-Tyne (Corbridge), Northumberland. [ Wellington Ic - DV435 - 14 OTU ].
MOUNTAIN, Edward Richard Ernest - Sgt - 1439622 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.
SHAND, James Alexander - W/O - 328793 - RAF - Halton (St. Michael), Buckinghamshire.

Alex

[Ross_McNeill]

Hi Alex,

Wellington X3212 of No.105 OTU.

Captain T G Murphy SAAF, Corbett, Ferguson and Mountain.

Regards
Ross

[malcolm_raf]

Hi

ITALY
BOWMAN, Cyril Thomas - Sgt (WoP/A/G) - possibly killed whilst flying in Wellington X, HF694 of No 142 Sqn, which failed to return from a raid to Turin.

CANADA
CHRISTIE, Robert Thomas - LAC - serving with No 37 SFTS and died on active service.
GUTTRIDGE, Colin Stewart - Sgt (Pilot) - killed whilst flying in Oxford, X6954 of No 39 SFTS, which was lost on this date.
SOWERY, Edward - Sgt (Pilot) - killed whilst flying in Oxford, X6954 of No 39 SFTS, which was lost on this date.
YOUNG, Maurice Allan - LAC - confirmed in Anson V - 12133 - 8 AOS.

INDIA
JURY, John - F/S (WoP/A/G) - serving with 326 MU died from wounds/injuries.

SOUTH AFRICA
LANGLEY, Frank Curtis - Sdn/Ldr - serving with 61 Air School, cause unknown.

UK
DAVIDSON, Emily - (Born MUNTZ, CANADIAN, emigrated to UK) - Flt Off - not Eng/Wales.
LAWRENCE, Harold Leslie - AC1 - registered Liverpool North
WINTON, Alexander John - Sgt (A/G) - confirmed in Halifax II - JB926 - 1658 HCU but on 23 Nov 1943 according to CWGC
ATKINSON, Edward Smith - P/O (A/G) - confirmed on Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU.
BROWN, John - F/O (Pilot U/T) - not Eng/Wales. The J Brown at 37 SFTS was 31124
DINES, Frederick Albert - P/O (Pilot) - confirmed on Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU.
FERNANDES, Robert henry James - F/O (Nav) - killed whilst flying in Master II, AZ333 of No 2 FIS, which failed to return from a low level flying exercise and was found seven months later on Tipperweir in Kincardineshire.
GANLY, Harry - Sgt (Flt/Eng0 - confirmed on Lancaster I - W4953 - 1656 HCU.
HALL, John Donald - Sgt (A/G) - confirmed in Wellington Ic - DV435 - 14 OTU.
SHAND, James Alexander - W/O - registered in Aylesbury (RAF Hospital Halton)

Malcolm

[COL BRUGGY]

Hello,

ITALY - BOWMAN.

24/25-11-1943
No.142 Sqn
Wellington III HF694

Failed to return from attack on the Villar Perosa ball bearing factory at Turin, Italy.

1318481 Sgt (Pilot) Diuglas Henry BETTS RAFVR +
1319781 Sgt (Nav.) Horace Peter HURNELL RAFVR +
991606 Sgt (Air Bomber) Stephen Fraser SMITH RAFVR +
1291113 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Cyril Thomas BOWMAN RAFVR +
1213198 Sgt (Air Gnr.) Stafford Alfonzo BARTON RAFVR +

The crew were initially buried locally and later re-interred in Staglieno Cemetery, Genoa.

http://www.aviationarchaeology.org.u...sqn_losses.htm

Col.

[Bill Walker]

Anson 12133 (Young) is reported to have crashed at "River St. Joseph Bleue", which is probably the closest an English speaking clerk could come to Eglise St-Joseph, on the Riviere Bleue in Quebec. This is an old church near Trois Riviere, Quebec. It is common for rural districts in Quebec to be informally named after the local church.

Oxford X6954 (Sowery & Guttridge) stalled from a turn at low altitude and spun in 6 miles north of Rush Lake (the lake is 15 miles north-east of Swift Current aerodrome).

Concerning Christie of 37 SFTS, this School lost Harvard 2739 in a mid-air collision on this date, but the only fatality I have been able to associate with this accident is P/O J. Brown, RAF. The other Harvard landed without further damage, no injuries reported.

[dennis_burke]

Christie died from natural causes, an illness.
Ancestry.com Canada, War Graves Registers (Circumstances of Casualty), 1914-1948 for Robert James Christie

The 8 OAS aircraft must have also had onboard
J O R Bordeleau 24 Nov 1943 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada R169334
Ralph Richard Sturgeon 24 Nov 1943 Toronto, Ontario, Canada R175025
Ivan Samuel Waddell 24 Nov 1943 St Charles, Manitoba, Canada R100422

[Tonym]

Emily Davidson is buried in Leuchers Cemetery Fifeshire

Tony

[wwrsimon]

Hello

WAAF
DAVIDSON, Emily - Flg/Off - 636 - the Dundee Courier of Novemebr 27th 1943 carried the following announcement:

DAVIDSON - at Castle Kennedy, after a short illness, on Nov. 24, 1943, Flight Officer Emily Davidson, W.A.A.F., sister of Mrs. Munro, Leuchars, and Miss Davidson, Milnathort.

UK
LAWRENCE, Harold Leslie - AC1 - 1033578 - the National Probate Calendar records that he died at Broadgreen Emergency Hospital, Liverpool.

BROWN, John - F/O (Pilot U/T) - 51513 - the Graves Registration Report Form confirms his unit as 37 S.F.T.S. See also:

http://www.rafcommands.com/dcforum/D...504.txtRegards

Simon

[kenmorrison]

Hello,

431124 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 24-11-1943

From Henk's list -

WAAF
DAVIDSON, Emily - (Born MUNTZ, CANADIAN, emigrated to UK) - Flg/Off - 636 - M.I.D - WAAF - Leuchars, Fifeshire.


Alex

Can anyone tell me please where the birth details came from?

Although she is buried in Fife, the only war memorial with her name is in Melrose, Roxburghshire in the Scottish Borders and I'm struggling to make any connection with Melrose.

The details I have so far are:

F.O. EMILY DAVIDSON W.A.A.F.
Emily Davidson – age 42 – Flight Officer (636) Women's Auxiliary Air Force.
Emily was promoted from Section Officer to Flight Officer in June 1942 but at the end of the following year she died of complications arising from pneumonia at RAF Castle Kennedy, Dunragit, Wigtownshire. Her usual residence was given as Station House, Leuchars in Fife.
In 1943 RAF Castle Kennedy was the home of 3 Air Gunnery School, equipped with Ansons for gunnery, and Martinets for target towing.
(Source: London Gazette 4/8/1942 p.3456 and Death Register)
Born c.1901 (I cannot trace)
Daughter of the late John Davidson (former missionary) and of the late Emily (Patterson) Davidson.
(Source: CWGC and Death Register)
Sister of Mrs. Monro of Leuchars, Fife and of Miss Davidson of Milnathort, Kinross-shire.
(Source: Dundee Courier 27/11/1943)
Died on Service on 24 November 1943.
Commonwealth War Grave – Leuchars Cemetery, Fife.

Many thanks
Ken

[wwrsimon]

Ken

I'm not sure what is actually meant by 'Born MUNTZ.' Is it her birth name? Her place of birth?

I see Alex mentions it comes from Henk's original list, perhaps Alex can tells us if there's any more.

Regards

Simon