431204 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 4-12-1943

Thread: 431204 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 4-12-1943

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  1. Alex Smart said:

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    Hello,

    431204 - Unaccounted Airwoman & Airmen - 4-12-1943

    From Henk's list -

    WAAF
    NEWMARCH, Joyce May - ACW2 - 487060 - WAAF - East Sheen, Surrey.

    ALGERIA
    HEATON, James - LAC - 1475397 - RAFVR - Dely Ibrahim, Algeria.

    UK
    BARRATT, Fred - Sgt - 632506 - RAF - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey..[ Halifax V - DG316 - 518 Sqn].
    GILLMAN, Gilbert Nigel Charles - AC1 - 1209832 - RAFVR - Harrow (Eastcote Lane), Middlesex.
    GREENWOOD, Herbert - LAC - 1351429 - RAFVR - Blackpool (Layton), Lancashire.
    HUDSON, Leonard - AC1 - 1662821 - RAF - Birmingham Municipal, Warwickshire.
    McLOUGHLIN, David Paton - F/O - 127825 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey..[ Halifax V - DG316 - 518 Sqn].
    McRAE, George Victor - AC2 - 993907 - RAFVR - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire.
    NEIL, Fergus Robert - F/S (Pilot) - 1344384 - RAFVR - Edinburgh (Seafield), Edinburgh.
    PARRY, Sidney - LAC - 1014931 - RAFVR - Bishop Auckland, Durham.
    RAINE, John James - Wg/Cdr - 37022 - RAF - Gravesend, Kent.
    RICHARDS, Joseph Charles - AC1 - 1468210 - RAFVR - Manor Park, Essex.


    From CWGC & Geoff's sites -

    WAAF
    UK
    HILLS, Clara Mercy - LACW - 2007493 - WAAF - Newhaven, Sussex.

    UK
    HARTLEY, John Mercer - F/L (Pilot) - 100579 - RAFVR - Rawtenstall, Lancashire.[ Halifax V - DG316 - 518 Sqn].

    ZIMBANWE
    MARSON, Peter Cramer (Argentine) - LAC (Pilot U/T) - 1181283 - RAFVR - Harare (Pioneer), Zimbabwe.

    Alex
     
  2. wwrsimon said:

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    Re: PARRY, Sidney 1014931. I have his death listed as registered in Pontypridd.

    Regards

    Simon
     
  3. malcolm_raf said:

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    Hi

    ALGERIA
    HEATON, James - LAC - serving with 111 RSU.

    UK
    NEWMARCH, Joyce May - ACW2 - registered in Aylesbury (RAF Hospital Halton?)
    BARRATT, Fred - Sgt - confirmed in Halifax V, DG316 of No 1674 HCU.
    GILLMAN, Gilbert Nigel Charles - AC1 - registered in Kettering.
    GREENWOOD, Herbert - LAC - died in a military hospital and registered in Fylde.
    HUDSON, Leonard - AC1 - registered in Birmingham.
    McLOUGHLIN, David Paton - F/O - killed whilst flying in Fortress IIA, FK206 of No 220 Sqn, which dived into the sea shortly after taking off from Lagens on a non-operational flight.
    McRAE, George Victor - AC2 - registered in Cleethorpes.
    NEIL, Fergus Robert - F/S (Pilot) - A member of No 518 Sqn he is confirmed in Halifax V, DG316 of No 1674 HCU.
    RAINE, John James - Wg/Cdr - possibly in Henley I, L3411 of 10 (O) AFU which crashed in a forced landing on the West Preston Ranges
    RICHARDS, Joseph Charles - AC1 - possibly in Henley I, L3411 of 10 (O) AFU which crashed in a forced landing on the West Preston Ranges
    HILLS, Clara Mercy - LACW - not Eng/Wales?.
    HARTLEY, John Mercer - F/L (Pilot) - A member of No 518 Sqn he is confirmed in Halifax V, DG316 of No 1674 HCU.

    ZIMBABWE
    MARSON, Peter Cramer (Argentine) - LAC (Pilot U/T) - serving at 20 SFTS.
     
  4. COL BRUGGY said:

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    Malcolm,

    l can't find any evidence that 127825 F/O David Paton McLOUGHLIN RAFVR, was aboard No.220 Sqn Fortress FK206 on the 4th December, 1943.

    l have the following:

    4-12-1943
    No.220 Sqn
    Fortress IIA FK206

    Took off on an anti-submarine sweep and crashed in the sea two and a half miles north of Lagens, Azores. It took off normally but two miles from the end of the runway it turned to starboard and either dived or stalled into the sea. The cause of the crash is unknown.

    132320 F/O (1st Pilot) Desmond Edward MORRIS RAFVR +
    1192004 F/Sgt (2nd Pilot) Robert Noel MORRISON RAFVR +
    AUS408252 P/O (Obs.) James Geoffrey JOHNSON RAAF +
    AUS406868 P/O (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Arthur PEARCE RAAF +
    149162 P/O (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Harold LAWSON RAFVR +
    R/121119 WO2 (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Carl Thomas FLACK RCAF +
    536451 W/O (Air Gnr.) Michael Patrick CAMPION GC RAF +
    R/125388 WO2 (Air Gnr.) Joseph Edouard Roch BOUDREAULT RCAF +

    P/O Johnson RAAF, W/O Flack RCAF and W/O Boudreault RCAF are buried in Lajes War Cemetery, Azores. The remaining crew members have no known graves and are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    Per: Alan Storr (with additives).

    Would welcome any additional information/corrections.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 5th October 2013 at 18:58.
     
  5. alclark said:

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    PM sent re W/Cdr Raine.
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/
     
  6. malcolm_raf said:

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    Hi Col

    My fault I'd listed him incorrectly, he was actually with 1404 (Met) Flt but I haven't found a candidate aircraft yet.

    Malcolm
     
  7. Ross_McNeill said:

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    McLoughlin was onboard DG316.

    The unit is confused on the F1180 initially Met Conversion unit it was scored out and replaced with 1674 CU.

    Details of the crash are:

    Crashed into the sea after take off for a night training flight. F/L Hartley was instructing the crew from No.517 Sqn who were converting to Halifax and is buried in Rawtenstall Cemetery, Lancashire. Both Sgt Barratt and F/O McLoughlin are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    Pinnace 1248 was ordered to sea for a crash call position North of Scarnish but found nothing.
    Aircraft exploded in sea 200 yards from low water mark, Hynish Bay, Tiree, at 00:24, whilst on a night dual training flight. One survivor, 1333692 F/Sgt S F Bartrum (pilot), four others killed.

    Regards
    Ross
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  8. malcolm_raf said:

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    Cheers Ross
     
  9. dennis_burke said:

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    J M Newmarch, J Heaton, G N C Gillman, H Greenwood, S Parry, J C Richards, C M Hills, all listed DOAS
    http://www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/flight...nscription.htm

    I cannot seem to find Hudson listed in Fligth or Aeroplane, Wills Calenders lists him died in City Sanitorium, Yeardley, Green Road, Birmingham.
    this is normal enough I think for non serving natural deaths, not to appear in Casualty lists.
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com
     
  10. malcolm_raf said:

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    I have just identified Marson as probably killed whilst flying in Harvard I, P5798 of No 20 SFTS, which crashed near New Martinthorpe in Southern Rhodesia.

    Malcolm