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    Hello,

    Seeking help in positively identifying some of the crew members involved in the following incident:

    14/15 January 1945
    No.30 OTU
    Wellington X LP830 'M'
    Op: "SWEEPSTAKES"

    Took off 1630 Hixon, as part of a force tasked to fly over the North Sea as a diversionary ploy. The Wellington was abandoned at approximately 0030 over Nottingham, and crashed in the Arnold area.

    Crew (Alpha order):

    412086 Sgt Victor William Kenneth BOTTERO*
    AUS431479 F/Sgt Maurice Joseph BRADEN RAAF
    1625503 Sgt R M COOKS (?)
    2209834 Sgt W G GOODALL
    1685569 F/Sgt (Pilot) D HUDSON
    2203562 Sgt A McCONNELL

    All baled out safely.

    * Bottero changed his surname to ARCHER by Deed Poll, in 1946.

    See: BCL7/333

    Bill Chorley, who names only the pilot, F/Sgt D Hudson, mentions that the No.30 OTU ORB is devoid of most crew details.

    Any assistance, other than advice on how to access AIR 78, would be appreciated.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 11th October 2013 at 01:55.

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    Your message was of great interest to me. I'm so grateful for what our people went through, including those from the then Empire and elsewhere.
    I'm the nephew of Sgt Bottero, later Archer, and lived under the same roof until I went to university in 1961.
    How may I help you?

    Flt Lt "Simon" (Sydney Archer) Spanton, RAF (Retired)
    Education Branch 1971-74

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    This one will drop a rather large spanner into the works, No.25 EFTS recorded the incident in their ORB, being the closest unit, one surname is repeated twice in the ORB but that isn't the biggest problem:

    January 15th 1945, “This S.S.Q notified of crash at 12.45 hours (a/m/) at Woodthorpe Park, Nottingham. The ambulance immediately proceeded to the spot, and on arrival found the aircraft wrecked but no signs of any of the crew. A search of the vicinity was immediately organised, and the search party were informed by the local N.F.S. that three of the crew were at their H.Q. at Mapperley, having apparently made a safe landing by chute. The ambulance proceeded there and learned there, that they had been transferred to the civil police station in Nottingham. On arrival at the Police Station it was found that the other three members of the aircraft had also made safe chute landings, and were at the Police Station, having been taken there by F/Lt Ruse (C.T.O. of this station). All six members of the aircraft (the full crew), were brought to this S.S.Q. and examined by F/O Czaplinski Duty M.O. No injuries were detected and the patients were allotted beds for the night. The aircraft, a Wellington Mk.10 No.L.P.828, was a complete write off and was from 30 O.T.U. R.A.F. Hixon. The crew were:- F/O Watson, Sgt Bettles, Sgt Miles, Sgt Miles, Sgt Ashton & Sgt Revis.”

    However No.16 FTS gave a little detail about Cooks,

    January 14th 1945, Medical Section, “Message received from Flying Control re crashed aircraft near Ruddington, occupants had baled out. Newton ambulance proceeded to Ruddington. Sgt Cook Co-pilot of aircraft was located and conveyed back to Newton, other occupants landed and were dealt with by NFS ambulance.”

    Bill Chorley is quite right about the 30 OTU ORB giving nothing away:
    January 14th 1945, “18.08 Sweepstake 12 aircraft airborne. 4 (O.R.C.O.(KD)) diverted and landed at Topcliffe. B.C.(BT) diverted and landed at Dishforth L.P. landed at Base. A crashed near Nottingham. Crew baled out. M crashed near Ruddington – Crew baled out. U landed at Catfoss.”

    January 14th 1945, “00.46 Crashed Aircraft – L.P.828 Pilot F/O Hickman. Short of fuel. Crew baled out all O.K. Aircraft lost and crashed near Nottingham. Cat. E.”

    January 14th 1945, “00.20 Crashed Aircraft – LP.830 “M” Pilot Sgt Hudson. Short of fuel. Crew baled out, and are all O.K. Aircraft crashed at position near Ruddington. Cat. E.”
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Hi Simnsez,

    Anything you can offer in relation to the crew of No.30 OTU Wellington X LP830 would be appreciated. Ironically, other than F/Sgt Braden RAAF, Sgt Bottero is only one for which l have a full name. l don't require any personal/private details on Sgt Bottero, he was of interest in that he appears to be a transfer from the Royal Navy. Was Sgt Bottero a member of the "Caterpillar Club"?

    Alan (Clark),

    The background material on the other 30 OTU loss (LP828) is interesting, and the quotes from the ORB's are useful, particularly what is mentioned about Sgt Cook/s. What you have provided on LP830 'M', is not incompatible with what l have already mentioned in my earlier post.

    If anyone could provide the full names of COOK/S, GOODALL, HUDSON and McCONNELL, that would also be appreciated.

    Thanks for help so far, Gentlemen.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 1st December 2013 at 04:58.

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