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    Default Frederick Thorpe Mappin - 17/7/1916

    Can any one throw any light on the inscription on a gravestone in Scampton Church.

    'Who died as the result of an aeroplane accident in Los Angeles, when in training for the Canadian Air Service - July 17th. 1916'

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    Very curious. As you probably know, there was nothing like a Canadian Air Service in mid 1916. The RFC schools in Canada didn't start until early 1917, but prior to that the RFC had contracted with various private schools in Canada and the US to provide initial training for their Canadian and US recruits. Your man could have been at one of these schools, as an RFC recruit who signed up in North America. Some schools also trained students at the student's expense, in the hopes of them being able to join the RFC in North America after graduating.

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    I wonder if Frederick Thorpe Mappin is linked to earlier Sheffield Businessman and MP with exactly the same name who is also linked by family to Mappin and Webb

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    Default Frederick Thorpe Mappin - 17/7/1916

    I have been intrigued by this inscription for sometime. May possibly a family memorial rather a grave. You will find a similar name in a Sheffield cutlery company and also occurs as an M.P. a generation earlier.

    Have asked some of my U.S. and Canadian contacts but so far no one has been able to add anything to the story.
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    Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
    Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
    MAPPIN Frederick Thorpe Lincoln 7a 584

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    Census of 1891 has him aged 5 Wortley west Riding Yorkshire and still there 1901 Census aged 15. I cannot find his marriage but what is interesting is the BA or BR after his name on memorial. The first Frederick Thorpe Mappin (if related) was a Baronet (not the same as a Baron) and he in not in the list of the 6 Baronets. I wonder if he was the son of one of the Baronets as it appears it was passed around a bit as they seemed to have died without sons
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    Interesting the 1911 Census reveals the 30 year Frederick Thorpe MAPPIN in Wortley is apparently "Frederic Theophilus MAPPIN" in this census


    Ignore CENSUS I think we need to look in Lincoln I don't think the Wortley or Sheffield Mappin is our name
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    Thank you for all your replies.

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    John,

    I suggest it might be worthwhile asking the Lincoln Library (which holds archived newspapers for the time) if there is an obituary for Mappin. Most local newspapers were weekly, so my guess is that if there is one a search should be restricted to a period no longer than four weeks after his death.

    Should you be unable to visit the library personally its email address is Lincoln_Library@lincolnshire.gov.uk . Most libraries will complete a search for enquirers, although there may be a small fee.

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    Re: The origins of Frederick Thorpe Mappin (Born Lincoln 1886 Died USA 1916)

    I think I can link him to Sir Fredrick Thorpe Mappin 1821 - 1910 (who got his name from his parents Joseph Mappin & Mary Ann Thorpe) but there must be a link as why the family name ?

    Sir Fredrick Thorpe Mappin 1821 - 1910 was 1st Baronet - he had 3 sons
    His 1st son Frank Mappin 1846–1920 was 2nd Baronet - he was unmarried and had no children
    Then his 2nd son Wilson Mappin 1848–1925 was 3rd Baronet - he had 2 sons and 1 daughter
    Frank born 1887
    Thomas Wilson 1877 to 1916
    It was Thomas Son Charles Thomas Hewitt Mappin who was 4th Baronet (1909–1941) but if he had no children then the Baronet went to

    Sir Fredrick Thorpe Mappin 's 3rd son Samuel Wilson Mappin 1854–1942 who was 5th Baronet - he had 3 sons and 1 daughter
    1st Son Frank Crossley Mappin 1884 (Lincoln) –1975 6th Baronet Died NZ and only had Daughters
    Daughter Mary Crossley Mappin Born 1883

    I wonder if Frederick Thorpe Mappin was the 2nd son of Samuel Wilson Mappin (the 5th Baronet) based on the birth location (Lincoln and date 1886)

    The 3rd son maybe either Sidney Hamilton Born 1888 or William Hubert born 1891
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