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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 6-7-1940

    Sorry for so many names this time.........................
    What caused the death of:

    P/O (Pilot) Jack C. BURRASTON - 42379 (from Australia ?) - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), buried Cranwell (St.Andrew) Churchyard, Crandwel & Byard's Leap, Lincolnshire (UK1931).
    P/O Burraston allotted same svcnr (42379) as P/O A.F.B. RAMSAY - 4 Sqn - killed 21-4-1940 and buried Trefcon British Cem., Caulaincourt, France.
    In same cemetery as Burraston lies buried with same date of death:
    LAC (Pilot) Ronald H.W. PARKER - 905524 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), and

    LAC Basil DREAPER - 529489 - whose name I can't find in The Times and Flight Global archives, buried Henlow (St.Mary) Churchyard, Bedfordshire (UK3102), and

    Sgt Edwin C. JACOBS - 581101 - previously reported missing later believed killed on active service (Flight Global), commemorated on Panel 15 of the Runnymede Memorial, and

    Sgt (Pilot) Robert B. MURGATROYD - 519962 - 9 Sqn Honington, Suffolk - killed in action (while flying in operations against the enemy - Flight Global), buried Honington (All Saints) Churchyard, Suffolk (UK2856).
    He may have been killed aboard an aircraft that safely returned to base, and

    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Shepherd SOTHERAN - 751010 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried Hartlepool (Hart Road) New Cem., Durham County (UK341).

    Aircraft losses for this date:
    Blenheim I - N3555 - 2 SAC - collided with another aircraft during take-off at night and crashed 2 miles west of Andover, Hampshire (already have as a casualty: P/O George R. LAMBERT - 42846 - RAF [from Canada]).
    Blenheim IV - L8855 - 264 Sqn - crashed (no further details).
    Gladiator II - N2266 - FF Shetlands - crashed on take-off Sumburgh.
    Hind I - K5413 - RAFC - flew into ground 1 mile south of South Clifton, Nottinghamshire.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Burraston was Australian. There is a bio and photo at these links (note that the second link gives the wrong date):

    http://cas.awm.gov.au/heraldry/REL34401.001
    http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/P05065.001

    Though the other pilot and aircraft details are not given though the aircraft crashed into River Trent so it seems likely to be the Hind

    Hope that's a start

    A

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    Thanks Amrit, that was a start for this date.
    Regards,
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    Also on this date was Oxford P1083, 2 FTS, Brize Norton. (From Air Britain Serials).

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    Default Unaccounted airmen 6-7-1940

    Hello Henk,

    A little bit more details:

    P/O A.F.B. RAMSAY - 4 Sqn - killed 21-4-1940 and buried Trefcon British Cem., Caulaincourt, France.

    First name Alexander, 42379

    Sgt Edwin C. JACOBS - 581101 - previously reported missing later believed killed on active service (Flight Global), commemorated on Panel 15 of the Runnymede Memorial.

    1 AACU (1 Anti-Aircraft Co-operation Unit).

    Best regards

    Finn Buch

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    Thanks Doug for the Boston info. Was not listed 'Crashes in UK' Air Britain Aeromilitaria from which I quoted.
    Thanks Finn for info on unit Jacobs. Checked oncemore svcnrs of Ramsay and Burraston and both are identical. Also Burraston not listed on the Australian Nominal Roll.
    Let's wait for Dave whether he has more info on these casualties.
    Good weekend,
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    Murgatroyd's name is in Chorley Vol 9, the Roll of Honour, but there is no entry in the 1940 Vol, there is a death of a Robert B Murgatroyd, age 24, registered at Bury St Edmunds which is close to Honington and this may support your idea that he was brought back dead or died after an otherwise safe return.Southeran's death is recorded at Andover which is consistant with Blenheim N3555 and his name is recorded against that a/c in Warner's "Blenheim"
    I can find a Jack c Burraston age 22,death registered at Retford ( which is close to S Clifton)and B Dreaper age 22 registered at Biggleswade
    The apparent duplication on numbers for Burraston would not be impossible if he is Australian and the other person is not I have found similar duplication between RAAF and Australian Army
    Regards
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    Last edited by Dick; 12th January 2008 at 15:14.

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    Sorry for 'Boston' in lieu of 'Oxford'.
    Henk.

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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 6-7-1943

    Thanks Dick for your info, much appreciated.
    Henk.

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    and those also interested in...........
    Thanks to your info on Sgt E.C. JACOBS - 581101 (1 AACU) I could find the matching aircraft. It was Henley TT.1 serial L3418 that dived into the sea off Malltreath Bay, Anglesey, caused presumed as glycol leak. The body of the pilot, Sgt Robert I. PERRY - 562264, may have been recovered from the sea. He lies buried at Pwllheli Bourough Cem., Caernarvonshire (UK8493).
    Regards,
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