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    A friend of mine, whose father participated in Ramrod 909 on 22 May 1944 is researching this operation. Particularly he is interested in bombers taking part in the evening mission. According to N. Franks’s “FC Losses of the Second World War vol.3”, his father F/Sgt Bartkowiak of 303 Squadron, who bailed out due to the Glycol leak, was the only loss of this mission (out of seven aircraft lost in afternoon operations) . I have checked J. Foreman’s “FC War Diaries” but this source doesn’t provide any details of Ramrod 909. According to the 303 Squadron’s Operational Record Book they were protecting Bostons and Mitchells attacking Dounai Marshalling Yards.
    Does somebody know the details of the bomber squadrons participating in Ramrod 909, other fighter squadrons, they rendezvous point and exact route to the target? Your help would be highly appreciated.

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    Hi Peter

    Unless someone on the board comes up with something better, your best bet would probably be to get a hold of the 11 Group ORB Appendix at the National Archives in London. The ORB itself should give you top level details, but the most detail I have found on similar Ramrod ops has been in the Appendix, which for May 1944 is in AIR 25/210. It should provide details on all of the units participating and give some commentary of the operation from both the bombers' and the escorting fighter Wings' points of view.

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    Steve
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    I have a copy of the 11Group ORB Appendix and several other relevant documents as 127Squadron provided top cover on this RAMROD.
    I have sent you an email with these documents.
    To summarise:
    11 Group ORB
    RAMROD 909 - 72 Mitchells and Bostons to attack DOUAI M/Y supported be 7 Spit Squadrons, Results - Good

    Bombers - 2 Group
    139 Wing
    98Sqn - 12 Mitchells
    180Sqn - 12 Mitchells
    320Sqn - 12 Mitchells
    137 Wing
    88Sqn - 12 Boston
    226Sqn - 12 Mitchell
    342Sqn - 12 Boston

    Close Escort - Horne Wing
    130Sqn - 12 Spitfire V
    402Sqn - 12 Spitfire V
    303Sqn - 12 Spitfire V (1 A/C Lost Cat E, F/S Bartkowiak)

    Top Cover (Mitchell) - Lympne Wing
    33Sqn - 12 Spitfire IX
    127Sqn - 12 Spitfire IX

    Top Cover (Boston) - Detling Wing
    80Sqn - 12 Spitfire IX

    Sweep Target Area - Detling Wing
    229Sqn - 12 Spitfire IX
    274Sqn - 12 Spitfire IX

    The following is what is recorded in the 127 Squadron ORB:
    "12 A/C took off at 1910 to rendezvous with 24 Mitchells and escort them to bomb DOUAI. They met them at 1950 and escorted them to DOUAI, they then swept ahead to LEUZE were they orbited and waited for the bombers and escorted them back. Light flak in the CALAIS area. Squadron landed back at 2050. Weather good."

    Hope this helps
    Andy

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    Steve, Andy

    Thank you both for your comments. At some point I was copying 11 Group's documents at NA, but due to the shortage of time I stopped at 1943 and at that time wasn't able to continue. Therefore your help is very much appreciated.
    Thank you so much again.
    Andy, thanks for the private message. I will reply to you.
    All the best
    Peter

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