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    Default 22 nov 1942 - flying accident in the 18 (P) AFU

    Hi all,

    On the 22 nov. 1942, JP Hinque (BRAYER), from 18 (P) AFU was KIFA aboard the Airspeed Oxford R6145.
    Does anyone knows if this pilot was alone in this airplane, or if this accident is responsible of others kill ?

    What was th reason of the missing of this airplane near Rugby (Bretford)

    Thanks for you answers

    MLT

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    Default Flying accident 18 (P) AFU 22 nov 1942

    Hi all,

    On the 22 nov. 1942, JP Hinque (BRAYER), from 18 (P) AFU was KIFA aboard the Airspeed Oxford R6145.
    Does anyone knows if this pilot was alone in this airplane, or if this accident is responsible of others kill ?

    What was th reason of the missing of this airplane near Rugby (Bretford)

    Thanks for you answers

    MLT

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    Hello Michel,

    Oxford R6145 dived into the ground on overshoot.

    Regards,

    Ian

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    Hello Michel,

    Pilot Officer Hinque appears to have been the only fatality in this crash. That does not rule out someone else being in the aircraft too, of course.

    The accident occurred during an "overshoot", that means, in this context, that the pilot had missed his landing approach and was "going around" for another attempt.

    Ray.

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    thanks "Angelfire" for theses precious details...

    MLT

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    The summary report says that it is thought the pilot continued too far after making an overshoot and that he then lost sight of the flarepath. Whilst distracted by trying to pick it up again, he lost control and the aircraft dived into the ground. This is, of course, speculation.

    Colin Cummings

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    Thanks, Colin, precious detail about the circumstances of this accident.

    MLT

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    Received this via email:

    Name dominique Brayer
    Email dombrayer@g****
    Subject Victor Andre Brayer alias J.P. Hinque
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    I have send you 2 photos of my uncle

    Does it exist in the archives of the RAF a detailed report of the accident of his aircraft airspeed R6145 dated 22/11/1942 ( Oxford R6145 of 18 PAFU overshot landing and crashed at Bretford. P/O Victor André Brayer of the Free French air force was killed.)

    Best regards D.Brayer
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    The information I posted above about this accident is taken from the RAF Form 1180. This is a brief summary of the accident and would have been extracted from the formal accident report. This report is unlikely to have survived, although some have.

    There are two other forms which might help and these are the RAF Forms 540 and 541. The 540 is a narrative diary and the 541 is a listing of sorties flown. From my own experience, the Form 540 will probably record a simple mention of the accident but nothing more.

    There is a new service available called the Defence Publications Scheme and this provides documents from the remaining official records. The service costs £30 per individual enquiry but you need to complete a formal request and pay in advance - money is not refunded if the search proves fruitless. The forms can be obtained from the RAF Historical Branch - AHB(RAF) - at RAF Northolt, Middlesex.

    Colin Cummings

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    Thanks Colin, I have already pointed out this thread to Dominique.

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