D H Tiger Moth EM190

[Steve Smith]

Gents,

Can anyone please let me know manufacturing details, units and history of this aircraft please.

Used by No.218 (Gold Coast) Squadron in 1944.

TIA

Steve

[greg]

Hiya Smudge - are you sure that's the correct serial? I'm looking in my A-B Serials book "EA100-EZ999" and according to that, EM190 was part of a batch of Standard-built Oxfords... Or are you still on the grog to numb the pain of the fact that only one home nation has won the an autumn international this weekend? :D

[Steve Smith]

Hi Taff !

I am using the C/O of No.218 Squadron, W/Cdr Royd Fenwick-Wilson AFC Log Book as a reference, he records it as such on 5 separate occasions ? Is there anything close mate.

I am still rather fragile from yesterday, I must confess, the ale like the NZ back row was moving rather fast for my liking..... but the best team won on the day.....New Zealand that is hahaha.

Cheers Mate!

[Steve Smith]

Hi Greg,

Just checked S/Ldr Phil Brentnall's "B" Flight commander's Log Book and he has recorded both EH910 and EM910 ?

Obviously aircraft serials not a squadron strong point !

Steve

[greg]

EH910 - no such serial mate!! It's in a a gap in a range of serials issued to Stirlings... EM910 was a Tiger Moth allocated variously to 1651 HCU, 1665 HCU, 14 EFTS, 16 EFTS, AND Nottingham University Air Squadron. Are those HCUs the 3 Group units Steve? Seriously, you've gotta meet me half way and give me something pukka to work with here!! ;)

Okies, a quick flick through the serials book for the range EB978 to ED300 gives the following Oxfords: -

EB910 - 6 PAFU so probably not that one...
And not a single other one that mentions 218, Chedburgh, or 3 Group... but,
EB753 - allocated for part of its service to the Station Flight at Mildenhall
EB787 - allocated for part of its service to the 3 Group Conversion Flight

So I've checked the "T" series A_B book, as that contains some serials including one of "mine", allocated to the Station Flight at Grimsby, and found the following "maybes", but they don't come even close to matching your serial: -

T1059 - allocated for part of its service to the Station Flight at Methwold
T1197 - allocated for part of its service to the Station Flight at Mildenhall

So anyway, not much for you I'm afraid buddy, but you can make it a pint for me anyway. Make it like a Welsh No.2 - strong, powerful, and capable of getting over the line and down in one when it matters most :D

All the best as always mucka!!

Greg

[David Duxbury]

Regarding Oxfords with 3 Group units, the ORB of 75 (NZ) Sqdn includes mention of DF258 in Nov 1942, DF262 (collected from Mildenhall 6/12/42 by Sgt Tolley, returned to Mildenhall 23/12/42 by Sgt M Lord), and BK602 (collected from 7 Sqdn 21/12/42 by F/Sgt Rothschild). There may have been others of course, but these are all I have taken notes on. 75 Sqdn was based at Newmarket at this time of course.
David D

[Steve Smith]

Gents,

Thank you both for your time and trouble.

Just goes to show that even squadron and flight commanders make errors...or is it just No.218 Squadron !

Dream on Taff, we will see next year when we play in Cardiff, loser buys the pints.....and I only drink ale so you better pre-order hahahah

Steve